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Toronto 25 19.38%
Chicago 44 34.11%
San Francisco 24 18.60%
Washington DC 36 27.91%
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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You've never been to Wrigley Field in Chicago then (I'm going to talk about all sports venues)

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...o-AHLB9406.jpg

I've been to the Verizon Center in DC and it's urban, but IMO the amount of stuff around Wrigley Field and I mean RIGHT around it is even more. It's basically plopped right into the middle of a neighborhood. They're about to add more stuff too so the small lot you see in the picture will be no longer in a year or two along with other stuff being even more.

Is this a joke? You think the area around Wrigley Field is more urban than Gallery Place in D.C.? How many places in all of Chicago are more urban than Gallery Place in D.C.? Gallery Place doesn't even have grass. You must be talking about a different area. Wrigley Field would need to be in the Loop downtown Chicago to be at the level of the Verizon Center in D.C. It's in downtown D.C. Are you sure you have been to the Verizon Center before?
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Is this a joke? You think the area around Wrigley Field is more urban than Gallery Place in D.C.? How many places in all of Chicago are more urban than Gallery Place in D.C.? Gallery Place doesn't even have grass. You must be talking about a different area.
You have to be kidding me right now...yeah that area IS urban in DC, I've been there numerous times. You honestly think that the area around Wrigley Field isn't as urban and dense, just as much around the Verizon Center? For the love of God

Yep, this isn't as urban as Gallery Place:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...b49458a9_z.jpg


You can always tell when people have zero experience with an area in how they respond to things like this. Gallery Place is urban, obviously, but Wrigleyville is just as urban as it if not moreso.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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You have to be kidding me right now...yeah that area IS urban in DC, I've been there numerous times. You honestly think that the area around Wrigley Field isn't as urban and dense, just as much around the Verizon Center? For the love of God

Yep, this isn't as urban as Gallery Place:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...b49458a9_z.jpg


You can always tell when people have zero experience with an area in how they respond to things like this. Gallery Place is urban, obviously, but Wrigleyville is just as urban as it if not moreso.
So this is urban to you in comparison to Gallery Place?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wrigl...12,174.85,,0,0


And this:


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wrigl...8.37,,0,0&z=16

Or this:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wrigl...4.57,,0,0&z=17
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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As much as it pains me to agree with MD (lol just kidding), I honestly don't see how anyone can think Wrigleyville is just as and especially more urban than the area around VZ Center. I'd much rather hang out in Wrigleyville but it's a farther out neighborhood that is not as intensely urban as Gallery Place, which is pretty much in the middle of DC.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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As much as it pains me to agree with MD (lol just kidding)
No you're not.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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No you're not.
You're right I'm not LOL, but I try to be fair and give credit where its due and I just don't see how this debate is even happening. I like Wrigleyville more but Gallery Place is easily more urban and better integrated into the urban fabric of DC.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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You have to be kidding me right now...yeah that area IS urban in DC, I've been there numerous times. You honestly think that the area around Wrigley Field isn't as urban and dense, just as much around the Verizon Center? For the love of God

Yep, this isn't as urban as Gallery Place:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7...b49458a9_z.jpg


You can always tell when people have zero experience with an area in how they respond to things like this. Gallery Place is urban, obviously, but Wrigleyville is just as urban as it if not moreso.

I don't think you are talking about the same area as me. I'm talking about Gallery Place/Penn Quarter Have you been to this place below?


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Galle...=12,109.8,,0,0
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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The area around Verizon Center is more urban though, its literally right in the middle of the city. Wrigley is a little bit out there in a lower density neighborhood. Wrigley has a suburban style MacDonald's and Taco Bell across the street with drive-thru's lol.
Are you kidding me? Wrigley Field is right in the middle of one of the densest neighborhoods in Chicago. You've obviously never been there or else you'd know that Wrigley Field is RIGHT in the middle of one of the densest neighborhoods in the city:

Area around Wrigley Field in Chicago:
* Census Tract 061200 | Population = 1889 | 28,009.91/sq mi
* Census Tract 83200 | Population = 1798 | 27,787.87/sq mi
* Census Tract 061000 | Population = 1647 | 24,683.7/sq mi
* Census Tract 061100 | Population = 1379 | 20,640.65/sq mi


Area around Verizon Center in DC:
* Census Tract 005800-2 | Population = 1900 | 21,124.62/sq mi
* Census Tract 005900-1 | Population = 2998 | 12,059.24/sq mi
* Census Tract 005800-1 | Population = 930 | 3553.39/sq mi

You can clearly see that the area around Wrigley Field is denser. Not to mention that it's even denser in the surrounding areas. Like the census tract right south of the main Wrigleyville drag has a density of over 36,000 per sq mi.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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I don't think you are talking about the same area as me. I'm talking about Gallery Place/Penn Quarter Have you been to this place below?


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Galle...=12,109.8,,0,0
Yes, many times. I actually have friends in DC and visit them often. I know the city and while it's urban, the area around Wrigley Field is even moreso. Anybody who's been to Wrigley Field and doesn't think that's right in the middle of the city and is very urban is blind as hell.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Are you kidding me? Wrigley Field is right in the middle of one of the densest neighborhoods in Chicago. You've obviously never been there or else you'd know that Wrigley Field is RIGHT in the middle of one of the densest neighborhoods in the city:

Area around Wrigley Field in Chicago:
* Census Tract 061200 | Population = 1889 | 28,009.91/sq mi
* Census Tract 83200 | Population = 1798 | 27,787.87/sq mi
* Census Tract 061000 | Population = 1647 | 24,683.7/sq mi
* Census Tract 061100 | Population = 1379 | 20,640.65/sq mi


Area around Verizon Center in DC:
* Census Tract 005800-2 | Population = 1900 | 21,124.62/sq mi
* Census Tract 005800-1 | Population = 930 | 3553.39/sq mi

You can clearly see that the area around Wrigley Field is denser.
I have been to both areas. Nobody was talking about population density, at least not me. Being more urban doesn't necessarily mean having a higher population density. STRUCTURALLY, the area around VZ Center is much more dense and urban, not with residents as I'd imagine a lot of those building are filled with workers and what not. So I guess if you plopped down the United Center in the middle of the loop Wrigleyville would still be urban correct?

So please explain what is so urban and dense about a drive thru MacDonald's and Taco Bell literally across the street from Wrigley Field? lol
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