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View Poll Results: Safest Big City?
Lincoln, NE 12 12.00%
Portland, OR 7 7.00%
El Paso, TX 25 25.00%
San Diego, CA 18 18.00%
Austin, TX 6 6.00%
Seattle, WA 9 9.00%
Lexington, KY 1 1.00%
Raleigh, NC 5 5.00%
Colorado Springs, CO 9 9.00%
San Jose, CA 8 8.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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I love Seattle and think it is among the safer big cities in the country, but I don't see how someone could objectively argue that it is safer than San Diego.

In 2012, Seattle had a slightly higher murder rate than San Diego (both cities are low there), a robbery rate that is twice as high as San Diego's, an assault rate that is 20% higher than San Diego's, burglary and theft rates that are both more than two and a half times higher than San Diego's and higher auto theft rates. San Diego had slightly higher rape and arson rates.

In addition to the numbers, it feels qualitatively true. In Seattle it seems you often hear about shootings and stabbings in Downtown nightlife areas like Belltown and Pioneer Square. In those areas you'll often see drug deals and other sketchy activity out in the open. Downtown San Diego, especially the Gas Lamp District, doesn't have nearly as much of that.

City Data's crime rate index, which provides a rating compared to other U.S. cities, has San Diego at 241, while Seattle is 399 (U.S. average is about 300). I'm surprised by this, but San Jose actually is at 292, which is lower than I thought. Although its murder rate is a bit higher than the other two.

One thing the City Data data does show, however, is that Seattle has made great strides in terms of reducing their crime rates in recent years. In 2000, Seattle had a score of 585 on City Data's crime rate index, which is actually fairly high. By 2012, the score was 399. Meanwhile San Diego and San Jose's scores haven't changed that drastically. So, while Seattle still has a notably higher crime rate than the other two, it has made more improvements than them in the last decade plus.

Also, I didn't vote vote for Colorado Springs because it doesn't have the infrastructure or vibe of what I would consider a big city.
You are, however, comparing two completely different cities in one regard: SD is massive in size and includes 1.5 million people, while Seattle is moderately-sized and contains <700K people. So the crime "rate" will be worse in cities that are smaller (partly why Minneapolis never looks good in crime studies when its isolated against the metro area).
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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FBI &mdash; Table 6

Portland and Raleigh seems best.
How dare you use data!

This isn't City-Data; this is City-Opinion.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Out of these 10 cities what one do you think is the SAFEST from crime. A city where you won't have to be worried out being mugged, murdered, carjacked, your house or car broken into, etc.
Of the ten choices, my votes would have to go to El Paso.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Of the ten choices, my votes would have to go to El Paso.
Same here, I always feel very safe in EP.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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None of the above.

I'd go with New York City first; Boise would be second.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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Virginia Beach
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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None of the above.

I'd go with New York City first; Boise would be second.
Really? I know that NYC has improved a lot, but it's still not as crime-free compared to places like Raleigh, Portland and maybe a few others. But whatever...
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Really? I know that NYC has improved a lot, but it's still not as crime-free compared to places like Raleigh, Portland and maybe a few others. But whatever...
Not at all true.

Look for yourself. Across the board NYC's crime is about half that of Portland.

Raleigh's burglary rate is three times higer than NYC.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...-New-York.html

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...nd-Oregon.html

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...-Carolina.html
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Old 04-18-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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a slightly higher murder rate

Here is all 10 cities murder rates for 2012 for both the central city and the metro.

CITY
Austin - 3.7
Colorado Springs - 4.2
El Paso - 3.4
Lexington - 4.0
Lincoln - 1.1
Portland - 3.3
Raleigh - 4.0
San Diego - 3.5
San Jose - 4.6
Seattle - 3.7

METRO
Austin - 2.2
Colorado Springs - 3.0
El Paso - 3.3
Lexington - 3.7
Lincoln - 1.3
Portland - 2.4
Raleigh - 1.8
San Diego - 3.4
San Jose - 3.0
Seattle - 2.9

The U.S. rate was 4.7.

United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FBI &mdash; Table 6
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I lived in Austin.

I never had to lock my car and at times would go out to play soccer at the park and leave my wallet, wrist watch, and iPhone in the car in the cup holder. Culturally people do not mess around and it's very safe, even in it's "rough areas" (which are laughable for rough areas since they're not dangerous or rough in the least) people just don't mess around with others. While walking in neighborhoods even bad neighborhoods, it never once crossed my mind that I could potentially be walking to my death, ever. It's just not that sort of place, cops are more busy busting underage alcohol parties or whatever.

It's very safe and the crime statistics portray as such, each and every single year, and has been doing so for several decades.

It felt like a luxury to be in such a safe environment all around, never had any worries, not even once.
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