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Yes, it does. And you know it. See above, or scroll through the 10-12 posts that have illustrated this for you over the years, each time you've made the same error.
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Originally Posted by ChazG
Manipulation? What does the census say? Please tell me. If it changes than so be it. I'm not going to be offended. I'm not going to be bitter. I'm not going to be mad. I'm not going to cry, scream, etc... if the census changes San Fran to one metro..
As a CSA the Bay area is much bigger (I get that), but as a MSA Houston is bigger (did you know?)
I'm not bragging and nobody said it was about pride or a contest. If this offends anyone on here I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'm out...
Oh, so you're one of "those". I suppose you think Houston's population makes it the 4th largest city in the country, too, right? That it's about to surpass Chicago? That's what the census says. But, spend a few minutes in the central business districts of Boston, SF, Philly--all much smaller cities than Houston, but with substantially larger CSAs and tell me which one is bigger. The only one that's larger than Houston, but functions similarly and gives a similar experience and level of urban development is Dallas...also a much smaller city.
Oh, so you're one of "those". I suppose you think Houston's population makes it the 4th largest city in the country, too, right? That it's about to surpass Chicago? That's what the census says. But, spend a few minutes in the central business districts of Boston, SF, Philly--all much smaller cities than Houston, but with substantially larger CSAs and tell me which one is bigger. The only one that's larger than Houston, but functions similarly and gives a similar experience and level of urban development is Dallas...also a much smaller city.
I'm not one of THOSE that you speak of. I don't know you and you don't know me. So don't go there.. Houston is the 4th largest city because of the population in its 600 sq. ml of land (don't play me).
Second, CSA's to MSA's are apples to oranges. So which one are we really comparing? Its okay for people to use MSA stats for cities like Houston, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, but its okay to use CSA stats for cities like San Fran, Philly, Boston and D.C. to compare which one has the advantage? Please
It was very common to use MSA stats for a comparison of cities on CD, but now since some southern cities are growing faster than northern cities its acceptable to use CSA stats.
So the question is which one (MSA or CSA) is more acceptable or accurate to go by?
AS far as your Boston, Philly, San Fran statement they are all great cities full of rich history, culture and have established Identities. TX cities have a long way to go in that regard.
I'm not one of THOSE that you speak of. I don't know you and you don't know me. So don't go there.. Houston is the 4th largest city because of its 600 sq. ml in land (don't play me).
Second, CSA's to MSA's are apples to oranges. So which one are we really comparing? Its okay for people to use MSA stats for cities like Houston, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, but its okay to use CSA stats for cities like San Fran, Philly, Boston and D.C. to compare which one has the advantage? Please
It was very common to use MSA stats for a comparison of cities on CD, but now since some southern cities are growing faster than northern cities its acceptable to use CSA stats.
So the question is which one (MSA or CSA) is more acceptable or accurate to go by?
AS far as your Boston, Philly, San Fran statement they are all great cities full of rich history, culture and have established Identities. TX cities have a long way to go in that regard.
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Some CSA's like LA, SF, and Raleigh Durham act and function more like MSA's than anything else, that's why people often use that measuring tool for the mentioned cities, other people can use CSA but it gives them no advantage so they dismiss it as not accurate, looks like you're one of them.
Some CSA's like LA, SF, and Raleigh Durham act and function more like MSA's than anything else, that's why people often use that measuring tool for the mentioned cities, other people can use CSA but it gives them no advantage so they dismiss it as not accurate, looks like you're one of them.
So what you're saying is San Fran/San Jose and D.C./Baltimore are more like a DFW MSA even tho it's not one MSA. That's what you're saying?
So what you're saying is San Fran/San Jose and D.C./Baltimore are more like a DFW MSA even tho it's not one MSA. That's what you're saying?
Yes SF bay is more in line with a DFW MSA, DMV is a little different because the area is split by media and not a solid development between Baltimore MSA and DC MSA like you see between SF-SJ and LA-SB/Riverside.
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I'm not one of THOSE that you speak of. I don't know you and you don't know me. So don't go there.. Houston is the 4th largest city because of the population in its 600 sq. ml of land (don't play me).
