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Old 04-27-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Yeah it does seem inherently sinful to leave out Havana, DC and Montreal in any list that speaks to urbanity!!... How about (don't know as much about San Juan and Kingston as I'd like mind you).. you could always just do a top 15 and call it a day
I think this shows how many heavyweights are actually in play when including the entire continent. Really makes for some tough decisions!
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: New London
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Sorry but Panama City especiallly blows away Vancouver and Miami when it comes to vibrancy. Miami is vibrant at night somewhat on an equal level as PC, but PC is on another level than Vancouver.
Fair enough. How do they compare in terms of "built environment and density"?

And I'm sticking to my "Monterrey v Boston" schtick too. (Still face-palming about that one..)
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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(not in any order)
1. Los Angeles
2. Toronto
3. Washington DC
4. Chicago
5. Miami
6. Philadelphia
7. San Francisco
8. Montreal
9. Houston
10. Dallas
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Old 04-28-2014, 01:02 AM
 
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(not in any order)
1. Los Angeles
2. Toronto
3. Havana
4. Chicago
5. Santo Domingo
6. Philadelphia
7. San Francisco
8. Montreal
9. Guadalajara
10. Dallas
Looks better now
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:28 PM
rah
 
Location: Oakland
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(not in any order)
1. Los Angeles
2. Toronto
3. Washington DC
4. Chicago
5. Miami
6. Philadelphia
7. San Francisco
8. Montreal
9. Houston
10. Dallas
Miami more urban than SF?

I could argue against DC and Philly being above SF too (especially DC), but at least there's a real debate there.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Miami more urban than SF?

I could argue against DC and Philly being above SF too (especially DC), but at least there's a real debate there.
His list clearly stated "not in any order" but I will say putting Houston and Dallas on the list is very laughable.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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His list clearly stated "not in any order" but I will say putting Houston and Dallas on the list is very laughable.
I intentionally left Dallas in post 14 to mess with a couple Houston posters
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Don't know what order but would imagine these would be the tops in North America when taking Mexico City and New York out of the picture. I'm doing by the configuration of urban area / metropolis rather than just the city proper.

Guatemala City (Gautemala), San Jose (Costa Rica), Panama City (Panama), Havana (Cuba), Montreal (Quebec, Canada), San Francisco (United States), Chicago (United States), Los Angeles (United States),Toronto (Canada), Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic), Puebla (Mexico), Managua (Nicaragua), San Salvador (El Salvador), Santiago (Dominican Republic), Leon (Mexico), San Juan (Puerto Rico).

I don't discriminate between first world, developing world, or third world environments when the question is straight forward "what is the most urban cities in North America when excluding New York and Mexico City".
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Don't know what order but would imagine these would be the tops in North America when taking Mexico City and New York out of the picture. I'm doing by the configuration of urban area / metropolis rather than just the city proper.

Guatemala City (Gautemala), San Jose (Costa Rica), Panama City (Panama), Havana (Cuba), Montreal (Quebec, Canada), San Francisco (United States), Chicago (United States), Los Angeles (United States),Toronto (Canada), Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic), Puebla (Mexico), Managua (Nicaragua), San Salvador (El Salvador), Santiago (Dominican Republic), Leon (Mexico), San Juan (Puerto Rico).

I don't discriminate between first world, developing world, or third world environments when the question is straight forward "what is the most urban cities in North America when excluding New York and Mexico City".
Good list, however I can't help but to think Philly deserves a spot in there.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Don't know what order but would imagine these would be the tops in North America when taking Mexico City and New York out of the picture. I'm doing by the configuration of urban area / metropolis rather than just the city proper.

Guatemala City (Gautemala), San Jose (Costa Rica), Panama City (Panama), Havana (Cuba), Montreal (Quebec, Canada), San Francisco (United States), Chicago (United States), Los Angeles (United States),Toronto (Canada), Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic), Puebla (Mexico), Managua (Nicaragua), San Salvador (El Salvador), Santiago (Dominican Republic), Leon (Mexico), San Juan (Puerto Rico).

I don't discriminate between first world, developing world, or third world environments when the question is straight forward "what is the most urban cities in North America when excluding New York and Mexico City".
I'd use this list instead of the metropolitan area one you referenced. Metro areas often include lots of undeveloped land, and in a quirk of statistics Canada, contiguous metro areas (such as in the Greater Toronto area) are listed as separate from one another instead of being joined together as they are in the list of urban agglomerations.

It also includes a handy side list of all the city's 1950 populations to give one an idea of how much development is of the pre-war variety.

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