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View Poll Results: What's the most individualistic major metro?
New York 21 21.00%
Los Angeles 23 23.00%
Chicago 5 5.00%
Dallas 6 6.00%
Houston 6 6.00%
Philadelphia 4 4.00%
DC 0 0%
Miami 7 7.00%
Atlanta 3 3.00%
Boston 4 4.00%
San Francisco Bay Area 12 12.00%
Other! 9 9.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:01 PM
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San Francisco is really gonna take a hit on these boards when HBO/Pelosi's 'San Francisco 2.0' is aired later this month
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Old 09-15-2015, 03:51 PM
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Episcopalians/Anglicans are by far the most progressive official denomination of the Christian church. They have been since the days of the founding of the Church of England by Henry VIII. And this is a Protestant denomination, but it is a small denomination overall (albeit with the prettiest and most grandiose churches of all Protestant denominations, on par with the best the Catholics have in this country).

That should solve that debate.

In terms of individualistic and expressive metros, I'd say the clear leader is San Francisco, probably followed closely by LA, Seattle, and New York. Really all one has to do is follow the demographics of Burning Man or similar events and experiments to realize that most of this country is rather conservative/averse to such expression or veering from some well maintained course. Only a few cities are really all that progressive/expressive to begin with, and most of the E Coast, almost all of the SE and Midwest, and some parts of the West are not this at all. In general, as with much of history, the west has had a very "out there" people filled with "out there" ideas. New York is New York and all that comes with that (in a very good way). But other Eastern cities like Boston or DC are pretty darn vanilla and in my opinion "boring" when comparing the people that inhabit all these places and how they shape the cities they live in.

I'd say San Francisco is still by a noticeable margin the most individualistic city in America, and definitely one of the most in the world. It is what defines the city after all - come with an open mind and be whoever you want to be and you'll undoubtedly be accepted and appreciated by at least someone in the city. Social norms and constructs are mostly out of the question. This is also how the city is able to support industries that are so innovative and thinking outside the box. This is a large reason why Silicon Valley was even set up after a bunch of high level executives left NY/NJ and settled on the Bay Area to do research and manufacture chips in a work setting that was totally contrarian to E Coast industry and was only accepted (because *anything* is accepted) in the Bay Area.
I wish you were right, but I find people out West are only "weird" in a very superficial sense. People are just as boring, incurious and money-grubbing out here as anywhere else in America for the most part.

Places like the OC and Utah aren't even weird in a shallow sense.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:04 AM
Location: Milwaukee
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Yeah, there's nothing at all "weird" about California, sorry. The people you're referencing are in every city in the country. I've spent a good amount of my life around "weird" people from all over the world, and I laugh every time someone thinks the same ironic t-shirts and beard-styles that are worn in every town over 50,000 in America connote any sort of actual weirdness - it's just as conformist as a Zac Brown Band show. Hit up an underground festival some day and see the most restrictive idea sharing and clothing choices to be found outside a dress code, and this is people from all over the world.

The weirdest people will always be the weird people who stayed in Toledo, or a small town in the Ozarks, or anywhere far outside the influence of these hipsters depots.
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