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Old 05-07-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Saying Houston is LA on steroids is like saying Chicago is New York on steroids.

There's no logic to a statement like that.
I said Houston is Texas' version of LA on steroids, which it is...the skyline, the freeways, the diversity, the coastal setting, etc. etc.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Saying Houston is LA on steroids is like saying Chicago is New York on steroids.

There's no logic to a statement like that.
Maybe he's talking about the size of Houston's freeways.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Maybe he's talking about the size of Houston's freeways.
Houston has larger/wider freeways than LA, which are busier of course.

There are several 5 stack interchanges in Houston. Not sure about LA.

Some of Houston's freeways are over 20 lanes wide. The Katy Freeway (Interstate 10) is 26 lanes wide making it the widest & most traveled (over 219,000 vehicles a day) expanse of concrete in the World.

By contrast, LA's 405 is 300,000 vehicles a day.

World's 11 Wildest Highways To Drive Before You Die: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-w...in-the-world-8

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Old 05-07-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Houston has larger/wider freeways than LA, which are busier of course.

There are several 5 stack interchanges in Houston. Not sure about LA.

Some of Houston's freeways are over 20 lanes wide. LA's aren't nearly that wide.
That was the point I was trying to make.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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What ever dude.

My friends big sister knows Bushwick Bill personally. He's always going into her bar. I had "Mind's Playing Tricks on Me" on cassette when it first came out in 1991. You're way too young to remember Walkman's & mix tapes though so I'll stop right there...
I'm near 31 so I know what a walkman and mixtapes are. You have proven countless times that you don't know hip hop in any way shape or form. So it's best that you don't talk about it and try to connect Houston to Los Angeles in more superficial ways.
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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Houston has a great deal of issues to me. It feels way to spread out and i have no idea where the "downtown" or "skyline" is because its like a bunch of skyrises plotted whereeever. Next the last time I went there I was in the southwest section of Houston looking at a car and I turned around because the salesman forgot to give my license back and I ended up in the most rundown downright 3rd world looking stretch out land I've ever seen..and I grew up in Chicago. I Thought the had part of Houston was in the north east jeez. Houston's not exciting to look at, doesn't offer much you can't get elseehere, lacks the appeal to me both visually and emotionally. But to each their own. I honestly would rank Texas cities as such... #1. Austin. #2. Arlington/Dallas area #3. Fort Worth. #4 Houston #5 San Antonio. Just my view.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Houston isn't a thing like Sacramento, Austin is.

Houston is Texas' version of LA on steroids.
I thought that might draw out your nonsense. You are wrong again, of course.

Coming from actual experience, I've found a lot of correlations between Sacramento and Houston:

Both are insanely hot in the summertime and can occasionally get cold in the winter.
Both are under-served by major universities, given their populations.
Both are generally derided by people within their state and largely overlooked as destination by people outside their state.
Both have cheap houses, large sprawl, limited public transportation and few walkable neighborhoods.
Both have secretly very good food scenes that are overshadowed by their poor images.
Both are two hours from cities most travelers find much more interesting to visit, but suffer from a kind of cultural isolation and lack of connection with other cities in their states.
Both are in environments and landscapes that defy common perceptions of those of the major cities in the state.
Both are very diverse--more so than most of the rest of the country.
Both became what they are by virtue of nearby natural resource discoveries.
Both play the "nice place to live, not visit" card. And both are right.

I will grant you that I can't imagine Sacto or any city in California (or really anywhere) bragging about how much land they've paved over with freeways. Most people view this shamefully.

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Old 05-07-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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Houston has larger/wider freeways than LA, which are busier of course.

There are several 5 stack interchanges in Houston. Not sure about LA.

Some of Houston's freeways are over 20 lanes wide. The Katy Freeway (Interstate 10) is 26 lanes wide making it the widest & most traveled (over 219,000 vehicles a day) expanse of concrete in the World.

By contrast, LA's 405 is 300,000 vehicles a day.

World's 11 Wildest Highways To Drive Before You Die: The World's 11 Wildest Highways - Business Insider
26 lanes and 219,000 a day? Chicago's Kennedy gets 300,000 at 12 lanes up near the Edens Junction. I'm sure Houston must have more than 219,000 per day at most.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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26 lanes and 219,000 a day? Chicago's Kennedy gets 300,000 at 12 lanes up near the Edens Junction. I'm sure Houston must have more than 219,000 per day at most.
This data is from 2010, maybe Matt has more current info.

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Old 05-07-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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I thought that might draw out your nonsense. You are wrong again, of course.

Coming from actual experience, I've found a lot of correlations between Sacramento and Houston:

Both are insanely hot in the summertime and can occasionally get cold in the winter.
Both are under-served by major universities, given their populations.
Both are generally derided by people within their state and largely overlooked as destination by people outside their state.
Both have cheap houses, large sprawl, limited public transportation and few walkable neighborhoods.
Both have secretly very good food scenes that are overshadowed by their poor images.
Both are two hours from cities most travelers find much more interesting to visit, but suffer from a kind of cultural isolation and lack of connection with other cities in their states.
Both are in environments and landscapes that defy common perceptions of those of the major cities in the state.
Both are very diverse--more so than most of the rest of the country.
Both became what they are by virtue of nearby natural resource discoveries.
Both play the "nice place to live, not visit" card. And both are right.

I will grant you that I can't imagine Sacto or any city in California (or really anywhere) bragging about how much land they've paved over with freeways. Most people view this shamefully.
You're comparing a metro of only 2.2 million (Austin's is 2 million) to a metro of 6.5 million that is Houston.

You're comparing an inland city, Sacramento to a coastal city, Houston.

Sacramento is 100 miles from the beach. Houston is less than 40 miles from the beach.

Sorry, but Houston plays with the big boys. Sacramento is on Austin's & San Antonio's level.

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