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View Poll Results: Which metro area would you prefer to live in?
Erie, PA 21 72.41%
Utica, NY 8 27.59%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-06-2014, 08:21 PM
 
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Since there are only so many possible city vs. city matches between large metros, I thought it would be interesting to analyze small cities/metros!

Which metro area do you think is a better place to live? Erie, PA or Utica-Rome, NY?

I have been to both (during the winter) and they both generally appeared to be somewhat depressed, but the people in the Erie area were very friendly. Both metro area are approximately 300,000 in population size, and are both located in the northeast, although Erie may have a Midwestern touch.

For starters, I have compiled a list that I believe to be generally objective points about each metro area.

Erie
  • Adjacent to Lake Erie and provides a somewhat coastal feel to the area
  • Wegmans
  • Friendly people
  • Equidistant to some amazing cities like Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Cleveland
  • Exciting lake effect snow
  • Leans liberal with politics
  • Crime is high
Utica
  • Interesting topography and greenery
  • Not too far from Syracuse and Albany
  • Leans conservative with politics
  • Crime is high
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Old 05-07-2014, 02:55 AM
 
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IMO, the greatest similarity between these two cities among others (e.g., Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo) is their best days are very far behind them.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:15 AM
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I prefer Erie, PA

It's on lake Erie and has a nice lake front park.

Good location, easy to drive to Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Toronto.

Also no sales tax in PA.
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Since there are only so many possible city vs. city matches between large metros, I thought it would be interesting to analyze small cities/metros!

Which metro area do you think is a better place to live? Erie, PA or Utica-Rome, NY?

I have been to both (during the winter) and they both generally appeared to be somewhat depressed, but the people in the Erie area were very friendly. Both metro area are approximately 300,000 in population size, and are both located in the northeast, although Erie may have a Midwestern touch.

For starters, I have compiled a list that I believe to be generally objective points about each metro area.


Erie
  • Adjacent to Lake Erie and provides a somewhat coastal feel to the area
  • Wegmans
  • Friendly people
  • Equidistant to some amazing cities like Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Cleveland
  • Exciting lake effect snow
  • Leans liberal with politics
  • Crime is high
Utica
  • Interesting topography and greenery
  • Not too far from Syracuse and Albany
  • Leans conservative with politics
  • Crime is high
Are we looking at the city themselves or the metro areas? If the city, I'd say that Utica is more moderate or leans "liberal". Crime in both metros isn't that high relatively speaking too. Utica has a pretty good food scene, especially if you like Italian and regional fare. Utica is close to the adirondack Mountains.

Both can be revived again, if people take an interest in both areas and see what is there. Those other cities are slowly, but surely seeing some revitalization as well.
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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I prefer Erie, PA

It's on lake Erie and has a nice lake front park.

Good location, easy to drive to Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Toronto.

Also no sales tax in PA.
CORRECTION: No sales tax on clothing, medicine or unprepared food in Pennsylvania. Everything else is subject to a base 6% sales tax, with some counties placing an additional sales tax on top per referendum.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Are we looking at the city themselves or the metro areas? If the city, I'd say that Utica is more moderate or leans "liberal". Crime in both metros isn't that high relatively speaking too. Utica has a pretty good food scene, especially if you like Italian and regional fare. Utica is close to the adirondack Mountains.

Both can be revived again, if people take an interest in both areas and see what is there. Those other cities are slowly, but surely seeing some revitalization as well.
Oneida County went for Romney in 2012.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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Oneida County went for Romney in 2012.
ALABAMAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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Also no sales tax in PA.
Hm. Not sure where you may have heard that, but that's actually false. PA has a 6% sales tax (higher in some municipalities), although food and clothing is exempted.
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Old 05-07-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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Oneida County went for Romney in 2012.
So? While the area has its share of Republican representation, it isn't an area that is extremely one way or the other. Utica is probably more diverse than Erie and is known for its Bosnian and other refugee/immigrant communities. Very Italian area as well and Rome, a city of about 34,000, is another center city in the area.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Erie has Lake Erie. No contest.

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Utica is probably more diverse than Erie and is known for its Bosnian and other refugee/immigrant communities. Very Italian area as well
Both cities are similar in these areas. Erie also has a healthy refugee/immigrant population, thanks to its very well regarded International Institute. Lots of Italians, too ...
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