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View Poll Results: Bigger immigrant magnet
Northeast 14 36.84%
California 24 63.16%
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Both areas have a large number of immigrants, and both have been relatively defined by continual flow of immigrants in their history.

Which one is more defined by its immigrant history?
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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They're probably equal but for different reasons. California tends to be more integrated with its immigration, while the Northeast often has more defined ethnic neighborhoods. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I think one could argue that the California style may allow more immigrants to become "one of the gang" quicker, while the Northeast style can create a more pronounced individual cultural influence. However you can find examples of both in both regions.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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2012 Percentage of foreign born residents:

California - 27.1%

New York - 22.6%
New Jersey - 21.2%
Massachusetts - 15%
Maryland - 14.3%
Washington, D.C. - 14.3%
Connecticut - 13.8%
Rhode Island - 13.3%
Delaware - 8.5%
Pennsylvania - 6%
New Hampshire - 5.4%
Vermont - 4.1%
Maine - 3.5%
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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2012 Percentage of foreign born residents:

California - 27.1%

New York - 22.6%
New Jersey - 21.2%
Massachusetts - 15%
Connecticut - 13.8%
Rhode Island - 13.3%
Delaware - 8.5%
Pennsylvania - 6%
New Hampshire - 5.4%
Vermont - 4.1%
Maine - 3.5%
If you take out the largest group from each, California's immigrant percentage would most likely dip though. It helps that CA is right north of Mexico.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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If you take out the largest group from each, California's immigrant percentage would most likely dip though. It helps that CA is right north of Mexico.
True...according to this source, 4.3 million of California's ~10 million+ immigrants come from Mexico, meaning if you took Mexicans out of the equation the immigration rate would be 15%. Though there's not necessarily anything wrong with that level of concentration. In fact it should be expected given the proximity of Mexico and the economic opportunities in low-skilled jobs in California.

One thing that surprised me there though was that they said there are only 760,000 Chinese immigrants in all of California, putting it in third place behind Mexico and even the Phillipines (812,000). However, I suppose one can attribute that to the amount of Chinese immigrants from the previous generation who had children whom are US citizens vs being immigrants.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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If you take out the largest group from each, California's immigrant percentage would most likely dip though. It helps that CA is right north of Mexico.
The percentages would also dip for New York, New Jersey, Mass., and a few other states if you take out the largest group (which happens to be Latin America). But states like California, New York and a few others also have a large percentage of immigrants that come from Asia.

For those wondering, my source is the 2012 Selected Social Characteristics table from American Factfinder.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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We all know that on CityData, Mexican immigrants don't count...
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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I'm going to add some more stats just for the heck of it. I know that including Texas and NM is a little random, but they show the diversity in California's immigrant population compared to states that are also known for Mexican and other Latin American immigrants.

2012 percentage of foreign born residents:
Texas - 16.4%
New Mexico - 9.2%


Place of birth for foreign born residents:

California
Asia - 36.9%
Latin America - 52.9%

Texas
Asia - 19.4%
Latin America - 71.5%

New Mexico
Asia - 12.5%
Latin America - 76.8%
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Old 05-20-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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The percentages would also dip for New York, New Jersey, Mass., and a few other states if you take out the largest group (which happens to be Latin America). But states like California, New York and a few others also have a large percentage of immigrants that come from Asia.

For those wondering, my source is the 2012 Selected Social Characteristics table from American Factfinder.
Latin America is composed of many different countries, while Mexico is just one. Taking out that ONE ethnic group from CA (I assume the poster you quoted was talking just about Mexicans) and taking out multiple ethnic groups from NE states is not equal. I understand your point, though.

I think that in another time, the Northeast was a bigger immigrant magnet, obviously the time of immigration from 1880-1920 or so through Ellis Island. Overall numbers then, and numbers of ethnic groups, that came into this area were insane. Now, immigration to the US is largely from Latin America and CA only makes sense because it's right over the border. While NE states are magnets, CA is probably greater at this point in time.
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The percentages would also dip for New York, New Jersey, Mass., and a few other states if you take out the largest group (which happens to be Latin America).
Nowhere as much. For NYC, the #1 group is Dominicans by they don't contain as much as the immigrant population as it would for California.

1) Dominican Republic 12.4%
2) China 11.4%
3) Mexico 6.1%

More Foreign-Born Immigrants Live In NYC Than There Are People In Chicago

For the rest of the state, in the NYC suburbs the patterns are similarly diverse. Upstate NY is rather low immigration.
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