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Old 05-23-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Originally Posted by Standard111 View Post
Again, none of this is true. We have actual Census stats, recorded from the city department of buildings. It doesn't matter what the media reports, it's what the city actually permits.

And Chicago, relative to other U.S. cities, is not building a lot of housing. It is a relative housing construction laggard compared to the top U.S. cities, at least now. 5-10 years ago it was building a lot of housing, but not now.
None of this is true? Are you kidding me right now, dude? EVERYTHING I said in this post is under construction and I already showed you a post that has the the number of things that were permitted this year along with links to the City of Chicago Data Portal showing the exact permits. Again, I follow this stuff very closely and let's just say that I am a source of information for actual news for real news agencies on this. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think what I said isn't true.

LARGE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS PERMITTED THIS YEAR:
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342128)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342808)
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/344582)
* 601 W Jackson - 191 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/333208)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/334867)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342489)
* TOTAL = 1692 units

Over 1000 units permitted in other areas (and a few smaller projects downtown too like the 65 unit South Loop motor row conversion and a 160 unit conversion in Uptown) plus a little over 200 SFHs.

CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (Construction At Wolf Point Site Kicks Into High Gear - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4...D720/ry%3D480/)
* 111 W Wacker - 504 units (Related Kicks Off OneEleven Preleasing With Penthouse Party - Hangover Observations - Curbed Chicago)
* Clark & Polk (AMLI) - 398 units (Topped Out: AMLI's 398-Unit Clark & Polk Apartments - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (Newcastle Tower & Loyola B-School Development Taking Shape - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i.imgur.com/b5UwgTO.jpg)
* Arkadia Tower - 350 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...1ef66e1016.jpg, Arkadia Tower Rumbles Through Foundation Work on Way to 33-Story Height - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* Summit on Lake - 332 units (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1020970.JPG , https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...o/P1030367.JPG, 73 E Lake & Virgin Hotel Dance Their Dance at Lake & Wabash - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9e7fdd942c.jpg)
* Catalyst - 221 units (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/catalyst-5-15-14.jpg, Development Update: The Catalyst - Curbed Chicago)
* Madison & Racine - 216 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...6225af4f11.jpg, 'The Madison at Racine', Future 216-Unit Apartment Block, Rolls Along - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 601 W Jackson - 198 units (JeffJack Making Quick Work Of 15 Story Apartment Tower - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (Apartment Tower At 212 West Illinois Begins To Climb - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...809992f243.jpg)
* 20 E Jackson - 160 units (conversion)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (, https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...h559-no/14+-+8)
* 922 W Washington - 104 units (http://i.imgur.com/LjnnMQL.jpg, Construction Begins at Circa 922)
* 211 W Scott - 71 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9393797fd8.jpg, Apartment review – The Scott Residences, 211 W Scott, Old Town)
* 727 W Lake - 61 units (affordable housing) (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/arcadia-5-18-14.jpg)

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Old 05-23-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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None of this is true? Are you kidding me right now?
No, I'm completely serious.

You are trying to argue against the actual City of Chicago registered building permits, confirmed by the U.S. Census, by citing various news articles and the like that may present a different picture.

The point is that we already have an official source. It's like trying to argue the Census population estimates by asking Uncle Wilbur what the real population is. Uncle Wilbur isn't a reliable source.

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Old 05-23-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The crime is high people are leaving even black people. I guess that would be called black flight. High unemployment, high crime. Houston has its own vibe and isn't trying to copy another city. Chicago will always try to be NYC and fall way short. NYC has 8.4 million people in 300 square miles.. The entire chicago metro area needs 9000 square miles to reach 8.4 million. No comparison at all.
Actually, Chicago has more than 9 million people in less than 3000 square miles. Still no comparison to New York but you might as well get your facts straight.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Chicago is still freezing cold, expensive, highly taxed, etc. It is a very difficult city to survive in. No one wants to live in a place like that.

The city also had a net loss of whites. Asian and Hispanic groups barely grew if they grew at all.
It's funny, but I used to live in Atlanta. You couldn't pay me enough to move back there. I hated the place.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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It's funny, but I used to live in Atlanta. You couldn't pay me enough to move back there. I hated the place.
I don't like it here either to be honest. But I had always lived in Florida and wanted to try something different. An opportunity came along for me to move in with a friend here. I personally always dreamed of living in California.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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Thanks for at least admitting that the weather in the South can and does suck every bit as much as the rest of the nation, opposite the idea Southerners and recent transplants have been selling for many years now.
No it doesn't. It is just that certain diseases used to thrive in hot climates. The South has always had a preferable climate to the North.

I can see how people might enjoy a New England type of weather. The North East is always 10-20 degrees warmer than the Midwest. That doesn't seem terrible.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Originally Posted by Standard111 View Post
No, I'm completely serious.

You are trying to argue against the actual City of Chicago registered building permits, confirmed by the U.S. Census, by citing various news articles and the like that may present a different picture.

The point is that we already have an official source. It's like trying to argue the Census population estimates by asking Uncle Wilbur what the real population is. Uncle Wilbur isn't a reliable source.
You have zero idea what you're talking about. But here's the links to the large projects permitted this year from the CITY OF CHICAGO (which you can see in the URL it is from www.cityofchicago.org, which is the official source from the ****ing city itself).
LARGE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS PERMITTED THIS YEAR:
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342128)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Buildings/Building-Permits/ydr8-5enu/343359)
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/344582)
* 601 W Jackson - 191 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/333208)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/334867)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342489)
* TOTAL = 1692 units

Then of course there's stuff like the 19 story, 199 unit New City building just north of Old Town permitted in March (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/340077)

^ Right there alone that's 7 permits totaling 1891 units. That's not even counting the random smaller projects permitted this year such as:
* 12 units - https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/327459
* 8 units - https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/332093

Many more. Mainly 3 unit buildings, but there's been many of them permitted this year. And the articles and pictures are showing you what's under construction right now, which you can clearly see from the dates the articles were written and the actual construction pictures in each article. Again, I'm actually a source of information for news agencies in town on this. You have no idea what you're talking about which was also apparent in another construction thread about the city.

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Old 05-23-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Thanks for at least admitting that the weather in the South can and does suck every bit as much as the rest of the nation, opposite the idea Southerners and recent transplants have been selling for many years now.
Yes because when you come down the interstates there is a :Southern Wholesale People Store" full of Southern salespeople waiting to convince you to move South.They are on commission you know?
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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It's funny, but I used to live in Atlanta. You couldn't pay me enough to move back there. I hated the place.
As musch as I like Chicago,you could not ay me to live there either.However even though I lived all over the world,there is not one place I hated.I was able to enjoy the vibe of the place I was in and did not worry about what it did not have,
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Apparently, 2.7 million people want to live in a place like that. And it seems that 9.5 million want to live in the metro.
And it still continuing to grow whether some people like it or not.
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