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Old 05-23-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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Lordy lordy how I hate the East Coast.......
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Austin nearly gained 100,000 and its only 272 sq miles. Plus the burbs are BOOMING...that's where a lot of transplants move to. Wonder what it would be with those numbers included.
Austin is over 297 square miles. It's about the same physical size of Charlotte.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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Houston currently has multiple 20, 30, and 40 story residential towers under construction, or in the pre-construction phase, right NOW. These are all in the city center so YES Houston continues to get more dense each day, the urban connectivity continues to improve each day, new mass transit lines are under construction which improves the car-less lifestyle.

For those keeping score,here is what is happening in Houston right now:

Houston Developments - devmap.io
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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With the Exxon deal there is a lot speculation that Houston could be annexing 150-250 sq miles - with this it would blow by Chicago and be on the heals of LA.

But then you would go there and be like, where is the city...

City limits are mostly absurd- Philadelphia would surpass the population of present Day Houston in a land area smaller than Dallas in terms of population

MSA and UA are mostly better metrics than city limits
Where are you getting that? That is not true at all. Houston will annex the tiny commercial strip where the Exxon campus is, not over 250 square miles. The only annexation Houston has done since the 90s has been limited purpose annexation of commercial areas ONLY.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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No it doesn't. It is just that certain diseases used to thrive in hot climates. The South has always had a preferable climate to the North.

I can see how people might enjoy a New England type of weather. The North East is always 10-20 degrees warmer than the Midwest. That doesn't seem terrible.
Preferable to who, exactly? You just admitted the South has terrible heat and the invention of A/C was really the only reason it became tolerable... that and the scientific advancements against the thriving diseases there. Hanging out in the A/C, however, is no different than hanging out in the heat during winter in the North. You're still not outside enjoying anything. And 10s of millions of people still prefer the North and always will. That idea seems to be offensive to some. The battle of Chicago/Houston is a perfect example.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Yes because when you come down the interstates there is a :Southern Wholesale People Store" full of Southern salespeople waiting to convince you to move South.They are on commission you know?
I'm talking about the media and places like this forum, which constantly attempts to perpetuate the idea that the weather in the South has absolutely no issues whatsoever, and is constantly beautiful and perfect... and the reason why people move there. None of that, of course, is reality.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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I'm talking about the media and places like this forum, which constantly attempts to perpetuate the idea that the weather in the South has absolutely no issues whatsoever, and is constantly beautiful and perfect... and the reason why people move there. None of that, of course, is reality.
Well weather is a major reason people move as well as cost of living and other issues.
Look at California.Phoenix

With the invention of AC people prefer warmer climates overall.Why do you think the Sunbelt ha been the fastest growing region for 40 yeas now.?.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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instead of sweating things...


LARGE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS PERMITTED THIS YEAR:
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342128)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342808)
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/344582)
* 601 W Jackson - 191 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/333208)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/334867)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342489)
* TOTAL = 1692 units

Over 1000 units permitted in other areas (and a few smaller projects downtown too like the 65 unit South Loop motor row conversion and a 160 unit conversion in Uptown) plus a little over 200 SFHs.

CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (Construction At Wolf Point Site Kicks Into High Gear - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4...D720/ry%3D480/)
* 111 W Wacker - 504 units (Related Kicks Off OneEleven Preleasing With Penthouse Party - Hangover Observations - Curbed Chicago)
* Clark & Polk (AMLI) - 398 units (Topped Out: AMLI's 398-Unit Clark & Polk Apartments - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (Newcastle Tower & Loyola B-School Development Taking Shape - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i.imgur.com/b5UwgTO.jpg)
* Arkadia Tower - 350 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...1ef66e1016.jpg, Arkadia Tower Rumbles Through Foundation Work on Way to 33-Story Height - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* Summit on Lake - 332 units (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1020970.JPG , https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...o/P1030367.JPG, 73 E Lake & Virgin Hotel Dance Their Dance at Lake & Wabash - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9e7fdd942c.jpg)
* Catalyst - 221 units (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/catalyst-5-15-14.jpg, Development Update: The Catalyst - Curbed Chicago)
* Madison & Racine - 216 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...6225af4f11.jpg, 'The Madison at Racine', Future 216-Unit Apartment Block, Rolls Along - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 601 W Jackson - 198 units (JeffJack Making Quick Work Of 15 Story Apartment Tower - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (Apartment Tower At 212 West Illinois Begins To Climb - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...809992f243.jpg)
* 20 E Jackson - 160 units (conversion)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (, https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...h559-no/14+-+8)
* 922 W Washington - 104 units (http://i.imgur.com/LjnnMQL.jpg, Construction Begins at Circa 922)
* 211 W Scott - 71 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9393797fd8.jpg, Apartment review The Scott Residences, 211 W Scott, Old Town)
* 727 W Lake - 61 units (affordable housing) (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/arcadia-5-18-14.jpg)
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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instead of sweating things...


LARGE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS PERMITTED THIS YEAR:
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342128)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342808)
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/344582)
* 601 W Jackson - 191 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/333208)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/334867)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (https://data.cityofchicago.org/Build...r8-5enu/342489)
* TOTAL = 1692 units

Over 1000 units permitted in other areas (and a few smaller projects downtown too like the 65 unit South Loop motor row conversion and a 160 unit conversion in Uptown) plus a little over 200 SFHs.

CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION
* Wolf Point West Tower - 507 units (Construction At Wolf Point Site Kicks Into High Gear - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4...D720/ry%3D480/)
* 111 W Wacker - 504 units (Related Kicks Off OneEleven Preleasing With Penthouse Party - Hangover Observations - Curbed Chicago)
* Clark & Polk (AMLI) - 398 units (Topped Out: AMLI's 398-Unit Clark & Polk Apartments - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* State & Chestnut - 367 units (Newcastle Tower & Loyola B-School Development Taking Shape - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i.imgur.com/b5UwgTO.jpg)
* Arkadia Tower - 350 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...1ef66e1016.jpg, Arkadia Tower Rumbles Through Foundation Work on Way to 33-Story Height - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* Summit on Lake - 332 units (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1020970.JPG , https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...o/P1030367.JPG, 73 E Lake & Virgin Hotel Dance Their Dance at Lake & Wabash - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago
* Chicago & La Salle - 295 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9e7fdd942c.jpg)
* Catalyst - 221 units (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/catalyst-5-15-14.jpg, Development Update: The Catalyst - Curbed Chicago)
* Madison & Racine - 216 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...6225af4f11.jpg, 'The Madison at Racine', Future 216-Unit Apartment Block, Rolls Along - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 601 W Jackson - 198 units (JeffJack Making Quick Work Of 15 Story Apartment Tower - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago)
* 212 W Illinois - 188 units (Apartment Tower At 212 West Illinois Begins To Climb - Construction Watch - Curbed Chicago, http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...809992f243.jpg)
* 20 E Jackson - 160 units (conversion)
* 1345 S Wabash - 144 units (, https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...h559-no/14+-+8)
* 922 W Washington - 104 units (http://i.imgur.com/LjnnMQL.jpg, Construction Begins at Circa 922)
* 211 W Scott - 71 units (http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...9393797fd8.jpg, Apartment review The Scott Residences, 211 W Scott, Old Town)
* 727 W Lake - 61 units (affordable housing) (http://www.j-carlson.com/ancilary/arcadia-5-18-14.jpg)
Then there is the actual absorption of units, which is going strong.

Crain's Chicago Business : Subscription Center
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: The City
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Where are you getting that? That is not true at all. Houston will annex the tiny commercial strip where the Exxon campus is, not over 250 square miles. The only annexation Houston has done since the 90s has been limited purpose annexation of commercial areas ONLY.
Was a link or piece of Info from Reddjohn in another thread - will see if I can track it down - dont actually recall the specifics
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