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View Poll Results: Which would you live in if you HAD to choose.
East St Louis 25 20.33%
Camden 98 79.67%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 05-22-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Not them I'm advocating for E. St. Louis, but there are some intact areas left in the city. For example:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5938...tizbtY_j-A!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165...ZQ!2e0!6m1!1e1
Very suburban.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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East St. Louis, if only for the fact that it's close to home. But looking at those pictures send shivers down my spine. Camden at least looks like it could eventually return; East St. Louis is nearly all gone. It's a wasteland. And one filled with bloodthirsty people (and feral animals) at that. It would make a great horror movie setting, if anyone had the brass balls to film there.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Very suburban.
That's because it is/was.

E. St. Louis topped out at 82,000 people in 1950 when the city of St. Louis immediately across the river had 857,000. Now E. St. Louis is hovering around 27,000 and falling. St. Louis is around 318,000
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PerseusVeil View Post
Not that I'm advocating for E. St. Louis, but there are some intact areas left in the city. For example:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5938...tizbtY_j-A!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6165...ZQ!2e0!6m1!1e1
Same with Camden.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=camde...,303.95,,0,8.6

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=camde...165.15,,0,1.09

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=camde...325.68,,0,7.79

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=camde...295.08,,0,5.52
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I never said that there wasn't. I just noticed that it appeared every single shot of E. St. Louis was of an abandoned house surrounded by empty lots, whereas Camden was at least having some parts of it that are intact being shown.

Here are a few more:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/US...6b7514!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6271...y7pGbYz9TQ!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6293...52GMVSyCOw!2e0
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Anyway, I'd pick E. St. Louis due to the fact that I'm familiar with the surrounding suburbs. I'd find an intact street on the border with a suburb like Belleville or Fairview Heights and spend all my time in the other suburb.

Obviously that probably defeats the purpose of this thread, but that's honestly probably why some of the farther off parts of E. St. Louis are probably still semi-intact; their proximity to suburbs that don't share a fraction of their problems.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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EAST CLEVELAND
The last 2 pictures are sort of (but only sort of) scary. The first couple ones aren't, they're only sketchy. It looks like they're just dormant and ready to be rehabbed. Those buildings just need some TLC. That kind of display doesn't even compare to Detroit-level decay, much less Camden and EStL-level decay.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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I'm still waiting on some flint Michigan pictures...wonder how it compares
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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EAST ST LOUIS:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwBoa-NbNL8&feature=kp
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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The bad areas of Camden look worse than East St. Louis. But it's obviously still a city, you could see people walking on the street, people out on the porch. East St. Louis is houses scattered among fields. Fields don't look that scary. There's probably no one out there at 1:30 am, or most hours. But on the small chance you do meet someone… there'll be no one to hear you scream.
ESL looks like a haven for meth labs.
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