If you had to live in one. East St Louis or Camden? (best, largest)

[eschaton]

Some nice streets in Downtown Camden...

One
Two
Three
Four

Yes, these are all within a few blocks of each other, but they seem like a fine urban neighborhood.

[PurpleHaze1100]

BMORE
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...82.06,,0,-3.75

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...4.66,,0,-10.51

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...40.03,,0,-6.22

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...64.96,,0,-4.42

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...0.81,,0,-11.33

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...79.76,,0,-8.01

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...12,315.25,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...,5.74,,0,-1.88

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...216.55,,0,-5.8

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...05.71,,0,-7.74

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...06.08,,0,-7.95

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...244.7,,0,-2.49

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...163.62,,0,1.32

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...4.94,,0,-10.22

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...6.22,,0,-21.35

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...12,353.25,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...192.11,,0,0.07

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...358.38,,0,-1.4

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...04.33,,0,-3.18

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...83.09,,0,-3.39

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...09.96,,0,-8.43

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...52.53,,0,-3.39

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Balti...81.19,,0,-3.79

[Newsboy]

^^^ I've never understood Baltimore row houses. What was the attraction? Plain brick buildings with walk-up stoops, no porches, no architectural adornments. The ones covered in faux brick tar paper (or whatever) are especially ugly. I don't get it. Why was this ever considered "living?" The city was destined to become a slum because the housing was so cheap and ugly. Why?

[DinsdalePirahna]

East Saint Louis is an absolute craphole with no redeeming attributes.

Camden isn't that bad. I've spent many weekends there racing on the cooper river.
I don't think East Saint Louis has anything like this :Home | Camden County Boathouse

Also being right across the river from Philadelphia makes is a lot more desirable than being right across the river from St. Louis.

[2e1m5a]

Camden actually has some nice waterfront condos

Camden Apartments - Luxury Apartments in Camden, NJ - The Victor

Camden Condos For Sale — Trulia.com

http://www.dranoffproperties.com/urb...en-waterfront/

[LordHomunculus]

Originally Posted by nei

Demographics of the two are very different. Camden is about half and half hispanic (mostly Puerto Rican) and black. East St. Louis is almost all black.

Originally Posted by PurpleHaze1100

What does this have to do with the thread?

Nei's post is more relevant to this thread than Street View posts showing East Cleveland and Baltimore.

[ckhthankgod]

What about Youngstown too? Keep in mind that I realize that even these cities have their areas that are at least stable as well.

[emcee squared]

Camden, no question.

Driving through East St. Louis was enough for me.

[AngusHsu]

Originally Posted by nei

another odd scene:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=635+B...nsaSij_SQ&z=17

why are some of their backs turned? And the white (maybe hispanic) woman walking down the street is looking straight ahead.

LOL, that is dreadful. She's showing a lot of skin. That house looks so skinny and like drug house.

[Lenses & Lights.]

Originally Posted by nei

another odd scene:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=635+B...nsaSij_SQ&z=17

why are some of their backs turned? And the white (maybe hispanic) woman walking down the street is looking straight ahead.

Cause they're shooting dice and the girl is looking straight ahead because.....She's walking towards a destination.