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View Poll Results: 900k to 1.5 Million Metro's People Know The Least About?
Jacksonville 11 7.59%
Louisville 15 10.34%
Hartford 14 9.66%
Raleigh 5 3.45%
Rochester 27 18.62%
Grand Rapids 52 35.86%
Tucson 12 8.28%
Tulsa 23 15.86%
Fresno 27 18.62%
Bridgeport 39 26.90%
Worcester 62 42.76%
Other (Memphis/OKC/Richmond/New Orleans/Salt Lake/Birmingham/Buffalo/Honolulu/ABQ) 16 11.03%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 145. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-23-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Maybe it does, but nei is right. According to the Census Bureau (the agency that defines MSAs), The Worcester MSA is simply the entirety of Worcester County, MA. Worcester County has a population of 798,552 (2013 estimate is 809,106). That would make the Worcester MSA's population about 800,000.

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Worcester County Population.
I can confirm this. The Grand Rapids-Wyoming metro is also below 900k with 785,352 people according to American Factfinder.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Grand Junction, CO Metro Area 146,723 146,723 146,464 147,499 147,790 147,554
Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI Metro Area 988,938 988,940 989,196 996,006 1,005,493 1,016,603
Grants Pass, OR Metro Area 82,713 82,713 82,838 82,641 82,813 83,306


copied right off Census.gov 2013 estimates
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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Default Matamoros–Brownsville

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The Matamoros–Brownsville is connected by four international bridges.[SIZE=2][5][/SIZE] In addition, this transnational conurbation area has a population of 1,136,995,[SIZE=2][6][/SIZE] making it the 4th largest metropolitan area in the Mexico-US border.[SIZE=2][7][/SIZE]

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Old 05-23-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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Grand Junction, CO Metro Area 146,723 146,723 146,464 147,499 147,790 147,554
Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI Metro Area 988,938 988,940 989,196 996,006 1,005,493 1,016,603
Grants Pass, OR Metro Area 82,713 82,713 82,838 82,641 82,813 83,306


copied right off Census.gov 2013 estimates
Yeah, I'm not sure how you got those numbers. Do you want to post a link to the Census.gov page? I would post where I got my data from but American Factfinder doesn't allow me to link to a table.

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Old 05-23-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
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Yeah, I'm not sure how you got those numbers. Do you want to post a link to the Census.gov page? I would post where I got my data from but American Factfinder doesn't allow me to link to a table.
The Census Bureau redefined what counties are part of the Grand Rapids metro area a year or so ago. The 2010 Census had the metro at 774,160, but adding Ottawa county pushed it over one million.
Metro Grand Rapids tops 1 million people for first time as Census shows shifting population trends | MLive.com
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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The Census Bureau redefined what counties are part of the Grand Rapids metro area a year or so ago. The 2010 Census had the metro at 774,160, but adding Ottawa county pushed it over one million.
Metro Grand Rapids tops 1 million people for first time as Census shows shifting population trends | MLive.com
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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Well, I've never heard of the Bridgeport MSA before. So that's one.
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Old 05-24-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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The Census Bureau redefined what counties are part of the Grand Rapids metro area a year or so ago. The 2010 Census had the metro at 774,160, but adding Ottawa county pushed it over one million.
Metro Grand Rapids tops 1 million people for first time as Census shows shifting population trends | MLive.com

It's true, although when you look at the two counties, Ottawa and Kent together have 894k people in them, with the eastern half of Ottawa making up the western GR suburbs. I don't feel they should have been separated into two separate metros to begin with. The two core cites (Grand-Rapids and Holland) are only a 20 minute drive apart. I have never liked the way metropolitan areas are calculated because they most often don't create an accurate picture of a city.

I think Ottawa County Michigan is a perfect example of where the rules of accounting go awry. Urban area is a much more accurate picture of a cities size because it doesn't include people who are 70-100 miles away from the actual city and get counted because they are in an assigned county. If it were up to me cities would be counted by urban pop and not municipal boundaries. It puts cities like Grand Rapids, and New England cities (Bridgeport, Hartford, New Jersey cities ect.) at a disadvantage making them appear smaller than they are because they are older and landlocked by other municipalities. Whereas the cities in new western states can gobble up land at will with such liberal annexation laws and can make themselves appear as big as they want to.(ie every Phoenician suburb).

ok sorry, end rant
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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I vote for the last three: Fresno, Bridgeport, Worcester. Possibly not a coincidence that the OP thought of them last.

Fresno, what is that? Most people probably have a vague sense that it's in California. Is it closer to San Francisco or Los Angeles? San Francisco, I think? I'm not sure. I know it's pretty depressed. There was a dramedy starring Brian Doyle Murray set there in the '90s -- or was that Bakersfield? Yeah, it was Bakersfield.

Bridgeport, I bet you the majority of people couldn't identify it as being in Connecticut. I've passed by it a million times on I-95 and have never stopped there or considered stopping there. Those who have heard of it probably think of it as being a cute New England seaport town (that name!), but actually, it's kind of a gritty place with big problems, as I understand.

Worcester, I didn't know anything about that place until I moved an hour away six months ago. I work with some people who live in the area. All the same, I still know relatively little about it. I'd like to visit sometime, but there are lots of other places to visit first. I'm not sure how much it has to offer. There's a museum. There's a statue of a kid having sex with a turtle. Or is that Springfield? (Checking now.) Nope, I was right -- it's Worcester!

I think all the other cities are better known. Jacksonville has an NFL team; Louisville has the Kentucky Derby; Hartford is the biggest city in Connecticut, which is not a small state by population; Raleigh is the center of the booming Research Triangle region; Rochester has a namesake university that's a major center for sciences; Grand Rapids is somewhat acclaimed as the best-performing city in Michigan; Tucson is a destination for northern relocation; Tulsa is a boomtown and the kind of growing city in an increasingly important region that tosses around silly ideas like hosting the Olympics. I can't really make comments like those about the three metros I picked.
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The Bridgeport metro is all Fairfield County. It's among the wealthiest metros in the country, with many finance offices and includes Greenwich, CT which is much better known than Bridgeport itself.
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