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View Poll Results: Northeastern Megalopolis Cities
Boston 12 21.43%
New York 22 39.29%
Philadelphia 14 25.00%
Washington 8 14.29%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 05-30-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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This couldn't be further than the truth. Have you ever spent significant time in the DC region? DC has as much if not more going on in its metro at any time than Philly. Not to mention being 45 mins from Downtown Baltimore. At the MSA/ CSA level Philly definitely has a battle on its hands. But even on the city level DC has tons of things to do which easily compete with Philadelphia. It's certainly not New York.
Yes, I have spent a considerable amount of time in the DC area since I live here. To clarify, I'm not saying that DC does not have a lot to do, but I'm simply countering the claim that DC has much more to do than Philly -- which has not been my experience.

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There certainly are things that work in one city and don't work in the next, Brooklyn flea took off in DC and NY but couldn't hold pace in Philly

Just FYI:
District Flea pulls the plug, citing flagging attendance and vendor turnout

The Brooklyn Flea did not do well because it was super over-priced. Not to mention, DC and Philly don't need a Brooklyn import when they have locally-based events/venues that fill the exact same need. The whole idea was pretentious to begin with.

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Old 05-30-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Wealth in Philly doesn't compare to DC. City proper or regionally. Philly has no answer for Fairfax and Loudoun Counties from a per capita income standpoint.
Again, real income indicates purchasing power, which really limits true wealth in the DC area. By this measure, Rochester, MN is wealthier than DC:

How Far Your Paycheck Goes, In 356 U.S. Cities : Planet Money : NPR

I cannot find data at the suburban level, but again, I'd wager adjusted income is very similar for both areas' suburbs.

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As for festivals, DC is the nation's capital so there is something going on every week. Stop believing DC is all museums and monuments. The city hosts major events as well as local festivals throughout the spring, summer and fall. For example, thousands flock to the Cherry Blossom festival in April. 100 thousand AKA's descended on the city for their anniversary. The Annual Black family reunion brings in thousands of visitors. This is only a few events. Every weekend, DC hosts an event of some sort.
Understood, and Philly has comparably-scaled events. That's all I'm saying, whereas your original claim was that DC has more to do. Interestingly, DC doesn't even register on this "most eventful" cities ranking, whereas Philadelphia ranks #9:

The “Most Eventful Cities Ranking” Highlights Best Cities for Local Events and Entertainment | Business Wire
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Old 05-31-2014, 12:26 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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The professional class in Philadelphia can't vote pay raises for themselves, nor is the military-industrial complex one of the metropolitan area's main employers. It seems that in order to generate wealth, Philadelphia has to rely almost exclusively on the private sector, free from federal contracts and palm grease.
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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Not to mention being 45 mins from Downtown Baltimore.
Wow, never heard anyone say DC benefits from being close to Baltimore before.

The Philly homers have hijacked this thread. I am a Philly booster but not a homer and I will say that there is no need to mope around because Philly gets voted in a poll after the nation's capital city and the nation's mega-city.

There are ways to promote the (clearly under-rated) positives of the Philadelphia metro without sounding like you have a chip on your shoulder.
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:19 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Wow, never heard anyone say DC benefits from being close to Baltimore before.

The Philly homers have hijacked this thread. I am a Philly booster but not a homer and I will say that there is no need to mope around because Philly gets voted in a poll after the nation's capital city and the nation's mega-city.

There are ways to promote the (clearly under-rated) positives of the Philadelphia metro without sounding like you have a chip on your shoulder.
Did u just completely overlook the part of my statement when I said: city vs city DC has at least equal amounts of stuff to do as Philly if not more? The poster before me clearly mentioned things to do in a regional aspect, that's where I replied at an MSA and or CSA level I would clearly take DC's region over Philly in terms of "things to do." What makes DC great is that you don't even have to leave the "MSA boundaries" and still feel like there is enough to do. Added to the simple fact that IF you do choose to enjoy things beyond those boundaries places like Baltimore/Annapolis/Chesapeake Bay etc are all within less than 1 hr.

What are Philadelphia's equivalent within its CSA?
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Did u just completely overlook the part of my statement when I said: city vs city DC has at least equal amounts of stuff to do as Philly if not more? The poster before me clearly mentioned things to do in a regional aspect, that's where I replied at an MSA and or CSA level I would clearly take DC's region over Philly in terms of "things to do." What makes DC great is that you don't even have to leave the "MSA boundaries" and still feel like there is enough to do. Added to the simple fact that IF you do choose to enjoy things beyond those boundaries places like Baltimore/Annapolis/Chesapeake Bay etc are all within less than 1 hr.

What are Philadelphia's equivalent within its CSA?
Everything within Southeastern PA, South Jersey, almost the entire state of Delaware, and Northeastern Maryland. I'm sure there are enough things to do within these 4 different states. There is the Chesapeake Bay, Delaware Bay, Jersey Shore, close proximity of two state capitols, have easy access to the largest cities in Delaware and Pennsylvania just to name a few.
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Old 05-31-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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There are ways to promote the (clearly under-rated) positives of the Philadelphia metro without sounding like you have a chip on your shoulder.
I acknowledge the potential for Philly homerism on this board, but I honestly haven't sensed that on this thread (also, if you were referring to my posts, I really am trying to be completely objective here -- I live outside of DC and will the first to tell you how much there is to offer in this area). However, since DC is clearly more of a known factor to most Americans, I still think there are misconceptions out there regarding Philly in terms of its unique offerings as a city/region.
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Old 05-31-2014, 02:22 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Everything within Southeastern PA, South Jersey, almost the entire state of Delaware, and Northeastern Maryland. I'm sure there are enough things to do within these 4 different states. There is the Chesapeake Bay, Delaware Bay, Jersey Shore, close proximity of two state capitols, have easy access to the largest cities in Delaware and Pennsylvania just to name a few.
At best that equates to maybe a draw with DC area. I'm not picking an argument about it here. Philly's metro definitely has enough to do, but if you ask me I would lean DC area as a whole.
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Old 05-31-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Yeah, but Baltimore actually has history and culture to it. It has a great traditional urban fabric that's arguably one of the best in the country.

It's a shame the city has such a high crime rate and has so much poverty.
And a lot of blighted zones on top of that.
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Old 05-31-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Wealth in Philly doesn't compare to DC. City proper or regionally. Philly has no answer for Fairfax and Loudoun Counties from a per capita income standpoint. As for festivals, DC is the nation's capital so there is something going on every week. Stop believing DC is all museums and monuments. The city hosts major events as well as local festivals throughout the spring, summer and fall. For example, thousands flock to the Cherry Blossom festival in April. 100 thousand AKA's descended on the city for their anniversary. The Annual Black family reunion brings in thousands of visitors. This is only a few events. Every weekend, DC hosts an event of some sort.
There is quite a bit of wealth in Montgomery and Chester Counties and PA also has a lower cost of living than the DC area.
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