State defined more by transplants: Florida vs. California (live, compare, versus)

[polo89]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

California has more substance than Florida, culturally and economically. In those regards, just move Disneyland to Nevada and add water, and you'll end up with Florida.

This is inaccurate on so many levels, I don't know where to start.......

[OrlFlaUsa]

Originally Posted by CravingMountains

I grew up in Florida and there is definitely a local culture brewing between the children of transplants or immigrants. I'm thinking of boating, seafood, big night clubs, a much more liberal outlook on life. Sexy beach bodies.

This is spot on. I grew up here too, left, and came back. Local pride is growing very organically here in the Orlando area, and I'm proud to work for a business that is a part of this movement.

Yes Cali has way more of this and I've been tempted to relo there a time or two, but then I think of how I'd be missing out on creating that here, in my homeland.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

California has more substance than Florida, culturally and economically. In those regards, just move Disneyland to Nevada and add water, and you'll end up with Florida.

Florida has the largest collection of Spanish history on the east coast. Including one of the oldest cities in the US. If that isn't substance...I didn't even mention the ethnic neighborhoods throughout the state. Florida may not have the antebellum history that other states like GA has, but don't get it twisted, Florida has substance.

[RadicalAtheist]

Gnutella didn't say Florida doesn't have substance. If anything, that quote says Florida does have substance, just not as much as California.

[dgreen]

Florida does get a lot of hate on CD but not sure why either.

[sofla951]

Originally Posted by RadicalAtheist

Gnutella didn't say Florida doesn't have substance. If anything, that quote says Florida does have substance, just not as much as California.

The issue was the ridiculous Nevada comparison, which I guess he needed to boost his ego living in boring Athens and coming from Pittsburgh. Anyway local "defined" culture goes to California because its has a much larger population that has been there for decades. Florida due to once being one of the least populated states to one of the most is transplant central... Even the third of the population that was born there are probably first generation, as I am, so I was influenced by my parents allegiances in some ways to where they were born, although after living there for almost 40 years now they identify as Floridians now in most ways. Add to this the fact that Florida has always had a lower birthdate, almost a 100 million tourists, and a large part time population it causes local culture to be underdeveloped and not to be as prominent as other states, but this is changing because despite all the aforementioned characteristics that are pretty unique to Florida, there's a large enough population of native FL people, many 1st generation, that are organically making FL culture and more prominent in the sea of transplants and tourists.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by sofla951

The issue was the ridiculous Nevada comparison, which I guess he needed to boost his ego living in boring Athens and coming from Pittsburgh.

Nevada's two most concentrated industries are leisure/hospitality and construction. Florida's two most concentrated industries are leisure/hospitality and construction. Furthermore, as of April 2014, California has 99.8% of the jobs it had at peak employment, versus only 96.6% for Florida and 94.5% for Nevada. I'm not talking about population or demographics here; I'm talking about economic substance, which is pretty fluffy in both states, especially compared to California. On that note, leave Pittsburgh and Athens out of this; they're not part of the comparison, and it's honestly never occurred to me to feel ashamed of having lived in either city, so I really don't need to put anyplace else down for an ego boost. You apparently do, though, considering you brought them up in the first place.

[allenk893]

Originally Posted by sofla951

The issue was the ridiculous Nevada comparison, which I guess he needed to boost his ego living in boring Athens and coming from Pittsburgh. Anyway local "defined" culture goes to California because its has a much larger population that has been there for decades. Florida due to once being one of the least populated states to one of the most is transplant central

It's funny because I'm from Florida and I don't know that many transplants. I thought California had more than us.

[8to32characters]

Originally Posted by sean1the1

I think you mean California! Nevada has demographics more similar to California, then it does to Florida. Disneyland is in California, and Disneyworld is in Florida. Yeah, just add some water and it'll have some of the most beautiful beaches in America. I also feel that California is less defined by transplants, but that's just beyond ignorant!

Originally Posted by CravingMountains

I don't even understand your last sentence about moving Florida's water and renowned tourist attractions to another state.

Originally Posted by polo89

This is inaccurate on so many levels, I don't know where to start.......

Typical Florida people--not too swift and have difficulty comprehending concepts that aren't very difficult to grasp at all.

Gnutella was insinuating that Nevada--a highly transient state with an economy largely dependent on tourism and construction--is very much like Florida, and it is. If you *move Disneyland from California to Nevada*--since Nevada has no theme parks--and *add water*--meaning give it some beaches (again, figurative)--you'll have Florida. Jeez, it doesn't rocket scientist to figure out what he was saying, OMG.

However, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that three posters from Florida had difficulty trying to figure that out, as I found comprehension ability along with general common sense to be severely lacking among people in Florida, primarily due to the little to no education of most residents. FWIW, I've never known so many high school dropouts in any of the states in which I've lived as I did while living in Florida, my uncle and one of my long-time neighbors included. The poor customer service in Florida is just one of the many results of this issue.

Also, most people Florida don't really have any working knowledge of California, as most have never been. Lots of people in East often compare California and Florida and make it seem as though the two states are very similar due to warm weather, beaches, palm trees, etc. when they couldn't more different. In my experience, most white people in Florida only have a working knowledge of New York and maybe New Jersey, and most black people only have a working knowledge of Georgia. The reason for this is that Florida is much more working-class than California as well as being pretty disconnected geographically from most other states, including its neighbors, so people in Florida tend to travel to different states less frequently because it's more expensive and arduous than in other states. FWIW, lots of working-class people who were born and raised in Florida, esp. South Florida, have never even left the state. OTOH, Californians are much more well-traveled in the US--and aborad, for that matter--overall than people in Florida because they tend to be better educated, higher income, and more open-minded to new places/cultures/experiences. People in the East really only seem interested in traveling to Disney World and either Italy or Israel.

[nei]

California:

54% born in California
18% born in another state
27% born in a foreign country

Florida:

35% born in Florida
43% born in another state
19% born in a foreign country

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