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View Poll Results: Which region is a better place to live?
Pacific Northwest 73 51.41%
New England 69 48.59%
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Northern NE is 95% white with 1-2 urban areas.
How are you defining “urban areas”? I’d think that Northern New England has at least 3 between Burlington, Manchester, and Portland.

And I can pretty confidently say that southern NH is a lot more urbanized than eastern CT, where I’m living now.
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I think "New England" is still an absolutely adequate term to use.
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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How are you defining “urban areas”? I’d think that Northern New England has at least 3 between Burlington, Manchester, and Portland.

And I can pretty confidently say that southern NH is a lot more urbanized than eastern CT, where I’m living now.
I live in Southern Maine, from my town of 230 any city seems pretty urban.

However I do not think that is the commonly used meaning of urban.

Burlington Vt has 42,000
Manchester NH has 111,000
Portland Me has 66,000

Are these really 'urban'?
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Recently lived in Cape Cod, MA for a year and a half and have relatives in Seattle: ***Cost of Living vs. Wages - PNW, though at the rate of inflation is going in PNW, this will change. Both are ridiculously expensive. The homeless tent cities in Seattle are a prime example out what the out-of-control COL does to an area.
***Economic Opportunity - PNW
***People, Culture and Mentality - NE
***Education & Healthcare - NE
***Natural Scenery - PNW
***Climate and Weather - NE. MUCH prefer the snow and cold of NE to the cloudy, drizzly, dank, depressing climate in the PNW
***Government, Laws and Politics - There's not much political diversity or diversity of thought in either region, but at least in NE it's more live-and-let-live. The PNW is very hostile towards opposing views. Antifa is pretty much governing Portland these days. Uh, no thanks! lol
***History - NE
***Architecture - NE
***Zoning - N/A
***Quality of Housing - NE
***The Cities - NE
***Activities (Indoor and Outdoor) - PNW
***Lifestyle and Pace - tie
***General Vibe - NE
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Are these really 'urban'?
Is this a trick question? Yes, I do think that theyíre urban.

What other designation fits better? Surely you canít be calling Portland rural?
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Is this a trick question? Yes, I do think that theyíre urban.

What other designation fits better? Surely you canít be calling Portland rural?
Everyone has their own idea of what rural or urban means.

No town over 300 people can really be seen as 'rural'.

But I am not sure if 60,000 is really enough to be considered 'urban'.
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Everyone has their own idea of what rural or urban means.

No town over 300 people can really be seen as 'rural'.

But I am not sure if 60,000 is really enough to be considered 'urban'.
Imo, just because itís a small city doesnít mean itís not a city.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Imo, just because itís a small city doesnít mean itís not a city.
Totally agreed.
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I just want to point out that the Pacific Northwest is now the top migratory destination region in the world for the two most expensive housing markets on the planet: Hong Kong and the San Francisco Bay Area. Ranking #1 and #2, respectively.

Vancouver is the largest recipient of Hong Kong expats of anywhere in the world, including places in mainland China. In contrast, Seattle and Portland are the largest recipients of former San Francisco Bay Area people than anywhere else outside of California. Here's a rhetorical question: how's the real-estate market doing these days? (LOL)

All of the major cities in the Pacific Northwest seem poised to become among the most expensive real-estate markets on Earth one day. Well at least two of them for sure. Vancouver already is but the others will eventually catch up as well. Your city is partially defined by the migrants it attracts and their spending power. If you made real-estate investments in the Pacific Northwest from 1960-1990 then you're due for a large pay-off and even more soon enough.

Anyhow, regarding this comparison, I admittedly really like Portland, Maine. Probably my favorite city in New England and second favorite in all of the Northeast after New York. Maine in general is awesome. That being said I would go with the Pacific Northwest here. It has three of my favorite major cities in North America with Vancouver, Seattle, and Portland and one of my favorite smalltowns in Victoria. I also like the scenic non-populated parts just as much as the cities, so all around it is a genuine like of almost every inch of the Pacific Northwest. That's probably my favorite region of the North American continent. Great cities, great outdoors, great topography, great culinary scene, great climate (for me), and just all around great region.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Vancouver is the largest recipient of Hong Kong expats of anywhere in the world, including places in mainland China. In contrast, Seattle and Portland are the largest recipients of former San Francisco Bay Area people than anywhere else outside of California. Here's a rhetorical question: how's the real-estate market doing these days? (LOL)
Per the OP, Vancouver isnít part of the discussion. Unless youíre referring to Vancouver, Washington..

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By "Pacific Northwest," I am specifically referring to western Washington and Oregon.
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