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View Poll Results: Which region is a better place to live?
Pacific Northwest 73 51.41%
New England 69 48.59%
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: New Mexico --> Northern Vermont in March
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Per the OP, Vancouver isn’t part of the discussion. Unless you’re referring to Vancouver, Washington..
Regardless, it's an integral part of the region nonetheless. In a lot of ways Vancouver has a lot more in common with the US West Coast than the rest of Canada and is not anomalous to the discussion of the Pacific Northwest when it fits right in to it.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t write the OP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

New York and Montreal are just as far from New England as Vancouver is from Washington.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:47 PM
 
Location: New Mexico --> Northern Vermont in March
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Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t write the OP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

New York and Montreal are just as far from New England as Vancouver is from Washington.
I don't think he is policing the thread since he ended up in Florida anyway. Vancouver has a lot more in common with Seattle than Montreal/Quebec has with New York or New England.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Chibostoncaliseattle
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I don't think he is policing the thread since he ended up in Florida anyway. Vancouver has a lot more in common with Seattle than Montreal/Quebec has with New York or New England.
Seperate conversation, but isn’t that a huge advantage for New England. Many cities/areas with vast differences all within a weekend trip?
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:01 PM
 
Location: New Mexico --> Northern Vermont in March
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Seperate conversation, but isn’t that a huge advantage for New England. Many cities/areas with vast differences all within a weekend trip?
I would agree, a more diverse range of choices. Montreal, New York, and Boston are obviously more dynamic and different from one another than Portland/Seattle/Vancouver.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I don't think he is policing the thread since he ended up in Florida anyway. Vancouver has a lot more in common with Seattle than Montreal/Quebec has with New York or New England.
Fair enough.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Per the OP, Vancouver isn’t part of the discussion. Unless you’re referring to Vancouver, Washington..
My selection would still be the Pacific Northwest, even without British Columbia in the fold.
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Old 10-20-2018, 03:00 PM
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New England cant be grouped together. Northern NE and SOuthern NE are two different regions and dmeographically and culturally extremely different.

Northern NE is 95% white with 1-2 urban areas.

Southern NE is 70% white and 90% of it is urbanized.

Honestly foolish to use "New England" maybe 40/50 years ago but its asinine at this point.

This.^^^ I've lived all over New England, and the northern states of ME-NH-VT have little in common with CT-RI-MA, with the exception of southern NH which has become a bedroom community for Boston and its surrounding towns/cities. Any generalization about "New England" is very likely to be wrong.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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I lived 14 of my 27 years all over the Northwest, and recently settled into New Hampshire.

The people in the northwest are more outwardly friendly, and are quicker to make friends (takes 3 months for a new resident), while in New England people are more honest about how they feel but take longer to warm up (it’s taken me 6 months here). However once people decide to be friends in New England, it is much less inconsistent and more full hearted than in the Northwest. People in New England are more easily bothered (I’ve never seen so much griping about the weather or snow so aggressively attacked) which might be why everything is so pretty and orderly here, the northwest is more likely to put a smile over a problem and not solve it (ie their traffic congestion). Northwesterners are also pretty finicky about feelings in general, which can be disingenuous, while New Englanders would sometimes rather let your feelings get hurt than lie.

Cost of living vs wages: Highly dependent, Seattle and Boston are comparible as are Maine and Oregon, New Hampshire has a great balance which is why I’m here.

Economic opportunity: Once again Seattle and Boston are similar, but outside of that I’d say New England wins hands down at least for someone trying to get started. Not so sure about mid-career.

Natural scenery: I like to say the West alternates between spectacular and drab (central Washington and Oregon scrub aren’t my thing), while New England is charming and beautiful everywhere. New England has a better coast (although Oregon is comparible) with warmer water. There are also more diverse and lush forests here in the east. The west has much better mountains. The PNW has less wildflowers, and turns brown and smoky every summer, although in May it’s gorgeous.

Education and healthcare: You really can’t beat New England in the United States, although the PNW has fine institutions which still got me a great job in New England. The healthcare system in New England is more efficient, but it took me a while to figure out how it worked here (specialists won’t return calls unless you have a referral).

Government, laws and politics: MA and WA are similar. OR is a lot like Maine. New Hampshire is a blend of the pragmatic aspects of the left and right which I like (Live free or die!). Northern Idaho is the friendliest place in the country, unless they find out you are different.

History/architecture: The one settled in the 1600s, the Northwest can feel unroofed.

Zoning: The northwest does a great job of creating utopias for the affluent, New England does a better job of letting people create their own private peice of paradise. In the Northwest big cities have more greenspace, and if you can afford the housing shortages caused by the affluent lobbying for restrictive zoning urban living might be a bit nicer. If you’re in a small to mid sized metro, New England lets you own a much nicer home and if country living is your thing New England is awesome. New England also has the preautomotive pattern of development which meant walkabity happened in an organic way that has to be forced in the northwest.

The cities: I sort of feel like Boston is a meaner uglier version of Seattle, and miss Portland, OR. However NE cities are very charming with beautiful architecture, and the traffic is much better (somehow New England has retained the ability to build and expand roads).

Activities: I would say they’re pretty similar, although you can swim in the ocean in New England and there are more museums here. The Northwest does have better hiking though, although there’s a lot of trails in New England as well.

Weather: western Washington and Oregon have two seasons: Dry and wet. It is mostly overcast and damp drizzle from mid October to mid March. The weather changes much slower than New England, where the amount of variability here happens over a month there. It frosts every other day around Christmas in Seattle and summers in the northwest are very sunny/temperate. As I’ve said before it is smoky around a month a year, and I love how New England stays green until it begins to frost.

Lifestyle and pace: It‘s quicker in New England, although both places are different depending on the size of city. I‘d say Portland, ME has the same pace as Portland, OR despite being 1/5 the size.

General vibe: I get tired of how much New Englanders complain, and checkers at the grocery store not really smiling when I’ve already had a bad day. However, when it comes to getting **** done right New Englanders are all about that. New England is more traditional, Northwesterners are very alternative and eager to do something new almost to the point where they leave the old behind with reckless abandon. If you want to have idle chit chat with strangers you never see again, or always try the new edgy thing go with the northwest. If you want a sense of place, take comfort in the familiar, and like traditions New England wins. New England’s amount of seasonal activities are something that takes centuries to create, and is something I really enjoy.

They’re both great places, but as an outdoorsy young professional that wanted land in the country with access to good jobs and services, I made the right choice moving to New Hampshire.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I love both, but New England is the win for me .
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