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Well sure, but it has even harsher weather, fewer jobs, and a population of less than 80,000 and falling for decades. What's with people on C-D and Duluth?
It is simply way more scenic than the twin cities.
If the twin cities had Duluth's location, they could be on sound footing with Seattle. Minus Seattles superior tech sector, of course.
It is simply way more scenic than the twin cities.
Aside from the post-industrial decay, Duluth is in a beautiful setting, yes.
However, for a Midwestern city, the Twin Cities are actually very scenic. Just in the tiny Minneapolis city limits alone, we have two waterfalls, seven lakes, the Mississippi River Gorge, AND we're the only city in the entire country that has a scenic byway (The Grand Rounds) right in an urban area.
I am curious to hear just how many of you out of towners have actually been to duluth.... The city itself absolutely sucks.
It's really only the west end of town (wide-scale abandonment, crumbling piers, etc.) that's truly disgusting to be in or look at. Downtown, the lakefront, Canal Park, and the east end of town are beautiful.
Superior, Wisconsin, on the other side of the harbor is the real dump. Sorry, Superior. You ain't superior.
It's really only the west end of town (wide-scale abandonment, crumbling piers, etc.) that's truly disgusting to be in or look at. Downtown, the lakefront, Canal Park, and the east end of town are beautiful.
Superior, Wisconsin, on the other side of the harbor is the real dump. Sorry, Superior. You ain't superior.
It depends the metro areas are similar size . The culture and embracing green ways is big in both cities. If you like a downtown based mostly on work areas and neighborhood shopping for a mid size downtown population then yea go Minneapolis. If you like a city with twice the size downtown based on tourism, destination shopping, work areas, and one of the largest downtown populations in USA. Go Seattle.
There's that smugness again. It's the "my [you know what] is bigger than yours" argument, so therefore I'm better than you? How does that work necessarily? Nothing against Seattle at all -- and big "props" for having such a nice downtown and no MOA to destroy your downtown -- but since when is a city's greatness dependent solely on its downtown? Both CITIES (Seattle and Minneapolis/St. Paul) have a LOT more to offer than just downtown, last I checked. AND, for as great as Seattle's downtown is, Minneapolis isn't too bad either. Both are headed for big changes, perhaps moreso than much of the nation....IDK.
One big difference between the two: Minneapolis/St. Paul suffered quite a bit of blight and decay since WWII, unlike Seattle. It pales in comparison to other Midwest cities but they lost over 35% of their core populations from 1950 to 1990, and now you're seeing the recovery and picking up the pieces. It's not necessarily an apples-to-apples comparison.
There's that smugness again. It's the "my [you know what] is bigger than yours" argument, so therefore I'm better than you? How does that work necessarily? Nothing against Seattle at all -- and big "props" for having such a nice downtown and no MOA to destroy your downtown -- but since when is a city's greatness dependent solely on its downtown? Both CITIES (Seattle and Minneapolis/St. Paul) have a LOT more to offer than just downtown, last I checked. AND, for as great as Seattle's downtown is, Minneapolis isn't too bad either. Both are headed for big changes, perhaps moreso than much of the nation....IDK.
One big difference between the two: Minneapolis/St. Paul suffered quite a bit of blight and decay since WWII, unlike Seattle. It pales in comparison to other Midwest cities but they lost over 35% of their core populations from 1950 to 1990, and now you're seeing the recovery and picking up the pieces. It's not necessarily an apples-to-apples comparison.
Seattle wasn't exactly paradise itself for a couple decades. Don't sell MSP short. Also Ironcouger didn't offer anything up in the way of facts to show that Seattle's downtown was "so much bigger and more populated" than MSP. Last time I was in both cities they had the same high end shopping downtown. No that quote you had sounds like a typical C-Der with anecdotal hyperbole to support bias. I doubt they have true experience of MSP to have a real opinion. (Of course now that i've said that someone will magically become an expert, as is always the case when called out.)
There's that smugness again. It's the "my [you know what] is bigger than yours" argument, so therefore I'm better than you? How does that work necessarily? Nothing against Seattle at all -- and big "props" for having such a nice downtown and no MOA to destroy your downtown -- but since when is a city's greatness dependent solely on its downtown? Both CITIES (Seattle and Minneapolis/St. Paul) have a LOT more to offer than just downtown, last I checked. AND, for as great as Seattle's downtown is, Minneapolis isn't too bad either. Both are headed for big changes, perhaps moreso than much of the nation....IDK.
One big difference between the two: Minneapolis/St. Paul suffered quite a bit of blight and decay since WWII, unlike Seattle. It pales in comparison to other Midwest cities but they lost over 35% of their core populations from 1950 to 1990, and now you're seeing the recovery and picking up the pieces. It's not necessarily an apples-to-apples comparison.
Nobody said it was better some people like living in a urban downtown setting some people would rather live in a single family house in a city . But when you go on a site and a thread comparing cities people are probably going to compare them . If that upsets you I wouldn't read city vs city threads. And do you realize your the one that brought up bigger is better . It's not for all people that's why I was giving facts so people could decide.
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