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Old 09-16-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I wonder how much of DC's "Product" is PRODUCED by those outside the beltway...DC should get a special term....Gross byProduct
Let me guess your a salty "Chicagoan" who is still baffled at how your CSA is 500,000 larger yet economy is $50 billion smaller, hmmm.
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Here's why the CSA numbers are all off: there are plenty of micropolitan areas that are part of CSA's in most of the country, but the BEA source doesn't have it.

That's why all that's on the BEA website are MSA numbers. Don't misquote the source
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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True. Even at $700 Billion, the Bay Area is locking horns with top 5-6 economies in the world.

Here are the top 20 according to the Brookings Institute (2012). SF doesn't show because they split SF/SJ, but we all know better.

1. Tokyo - $1520 billion
2. New York - $1210 billion
3. Los Angeles - $790 billion
4. Seoul - $774 billion
5. London - $731 billion
700 Billion Goes Here
6. Paris - $669 billion
7. Osaka - $655 billion
8. Chicago - $525 billion
9. Moscow - $520 billion
10 Shanghai - $517 billion
11. Sao Paulo - $473 billion
12. Rhine - Ruhr - $465 billion
13. Beijing - $427 billion
14. Washington - $415 billion
15. Mexico City - $411 billion
16. Houston - $400 billion
17. Dallas - $368 billion
18. Nagoya - $367 billion
19. Hong Kong - $350 billion
20. Buenos Aires - $348 billion
Im also very interested in the Bay Area's emerging megaregion and in 2013 the area in question which is the Bay Area+Sacramento+Salinas+Modesto+Merced+Yuba City had a combined GDP of $785 Billion.
This is pertinent because these surrounding areas are fast becoming bedroom communities. By next years report, I project around 850 billion dollars for 12 million people
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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Nice.
Yep, and DCs 5 year average is 0.9%. It's economy shrank last year actually.
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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Not sure of the methodology, but do they include all of the oil from the gulf into Houston's GDP or something? Otherwise Houston's numbers make it top5 richest places on the planet, above Switzerland, Bay Area, NYC, etc... For example, the difference between Houston and Dallas is like $10,000 per capita, which is crazy.
I have heard that everything in Houston costs less and the jobs pay more.
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Denver
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2013 Combined Statistical Area(CSA) Gross Product
New York-Newark $1.683 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $999.661 Billion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $664.687 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $657.039 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $597.805 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $517.367 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $514.586 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $451.436 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $429.838 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $314.759 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $309.577 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $297.071 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $262.166 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $236.389 Billion
Denver-Aurora $209.648 Billion

2013 Metropolitan Area(MSA) Gross Product, $200 Billion+
New York $1.471 Trillion
Los Angeles $826.826 Billion
Chicago $590.248 Billion
Houston $517.367 Billion
Washington DC $463.925 Billion
Dallas $447.524 Billion
San Francisco $388.272 Billion
Philadelphia $383.401 Billion
Boston $370.769 Billion
Seattle $307.769 Billion
Atlanta $307.233 Billion
Miami $281.076 Billion
Minneapolis $227.793 Billion
Detroit $224.726 Billion
Phoenix $209.523 Billion

*Current Dollar GDP using data beginning on page 5 of the pdf
*Micropolitan Area GDPs are not published.

All Metro Areas here:
BEA: News Release: GDP by Metropolitan Area, Advance 2012, and Revised 2001–2011

CSA definitions, 2013:
List of Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I was really impressed by Seattle...but I think you may have put it down incorrectly. According to the link you provided, its GDP is $284.967 billion. Still extremely impressive, but also sizeably different than the $307+ listed above. Did I miss something?
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Seattle +4.1%
Portland +4.2%
San Fran +2.6%
LA +2.6%
SD +3.7%
SanJose +5.7
SLC +3.7%
Sacramento +4.4%
Denver +6%
Phoenix +2.9%
LasVegas +4.3%
Austin +3.7%
SA +4.4%
Dallas +3.5%
Houston +5.7%
Minneapolis +3.6%
Atlanta +3.6%
Miami +4.2%
Orlando +3.8%
Tampa +4.1%
Detroit +2.9%
Raleigh +5.9%
Charlotte +5.5%
DC +0.8%
NYC +2.5%
Chicago +2.5%
Boston +3.3%
Philly +2%
Cleveland +2%
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Seattle +4.1%
Portland +4.2%
San Fran +2.6%
LA +2.6%
SD +3.7%
SanJose +5.7
SLC +3.7%
Sacramento +4.4%
Denver +6%
Phoenix +2.9%
LasVegas +4.3%
Austin +3.7%
SA +4.4%
Dallas +3.5%
Houston +5.7%
Minneapolis +3.6%
Atlanta +3.6%
Miami +4.2%
Orlando +3.8%
Tampa +4.1%
Detroit +2.9%
Raleigh +5.9%
Charlotte +5.5%
DC +0.8%
NYC +2.5%
Chicago +2.5%
Boston +3.3%
Philly +2%
Cleveland +2%
Again on the official BEA release you can find the growth rate for this year (its all by MSA). These numbers don't actually
agree very well with official ones.

For instance: Seattle is shown at 2.4%, Houston 5.2%, Dallas is 2.1%, Denver 4.3% etc.

Where is everyone getting this data from?
Ben
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Again on the official BEA release you can find the growth rate for this year (its all by MSA). These numbers don't actually
agree very well with official ones.

For instance: Seattle is shown at 2.4%, Houston 5.2%, Dallas is 2.1%, Denver 4.3% etc.

Where is everyone getting this data from?
Ben
The 2.4% increase for Seattle your using is for REAL GDP. Seattle's 4.1% increase is GDP. Etc...
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:34 PM
 
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Again on the official BEA release you can find the growth rate for this year (its all by MSA). These numbers don't actually
agree very well with official ones.

For instance: Seattle is shown at 2.4%, Houston 5.2%, Dallas is 2.1%, Denver 4.3% etc.

Where is everyone getting this data from?
Ben
No mainstream economist uses CSAs for economic comparisons. The OP compiled the numbers I believe. BEA does not produce the numbers. Those growth rates may nominal which are pretty meaningless from an economic perspective. Real GDP growth rates are what to look at.
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