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View Poll Results: Which has the strongest Italian presence?
Baltimore 24 55.81%
New Orleans 8 18.60%
San Francisco 11 25.58%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Besides some of the newer places with good upscale Italian, I've found that there's a lot of Italian influence in the cooking(or specifically Sicilian) or older restaurants that were started by Italians that serve Creole-style food with a mix of Italian dishes. A place like Pascal's Manale feels like very old school--though they're specifically famous for New Orleans-style BBQ shrimp and serve other Creole dishes, but they also have a lot of Italian(or Italian-American) dishes on the menu.

There's also places like Angelo Brocato's for Italian ice cream and pastries or the old Italian grocery Central Grocery for muffaletta(which is a tourist staple)--which is probably the most recognizable contribution from Italian immigrants in New Orleans.

And there's also this place on a rural highway on the edge of the metro, that's basically a classic red sauce joint that seems unchanged for the last fifty years--and also where famed Mafia boss Carlos Marcello used to hold court.
Italian Restaurant | Avondale, Louisiana | Mosca

I'm just a frequent tourist and aficionado of New Orleans though, I'm sure some of the posters from there can provide much more detail about restaurants. I know there's some good Italian places out in the suburbs as well(where most of the older Italian community moved to).
Have you ever been to Metairie? It seems to have a strong Italian concentration (relatively speaking)?

 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Besides some of the newer places with good upscale Italian, I've found that there's a lot of Italian influence in the cooking(or specifically Sicilian) or older restaurants that were started by Italians that serve Creole-style food with a mix of Italian dishes. A place like Pascal's Manale feels like very old school--though they're specifically famous for New Orleans-style BBQ shrimp and serve other Creole dishes, but they also have a lot of Italian(or Italian-American) dishes on the menu.

There's also places like Angelo Brocato's for Italian ice cream and pastries or the old Italian grocery Central Grocery for muffaletta(which is a tourist staple)--which is probably the most recognizable contribution from Italian immigrants in New Orleans.

And there's also this place on a rural highway on the edge of the metro, that's basically a classic red sauce joint that seems unchanged for the last fifty years--and also where famed Mafia boss Carlos Marcello used to hold court.
Italian Restaurant | Avondale, Louisiana | Mosca

I'm just a frequent tourist and aficionado of New Orleans though, I'm sure some of the posters from there can provide much more detail about restaurants. I know there's some good Italian places out in the suburbs as well(where most of the older Italian community moved to).
Thanks-that sounds awesome. I would like to explore the region outside of New Orleans more and this just gives me even more reason to go back!
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The white population has declined in all of these cities since 1950.

Baltimore leads in the poll, yet nobody actually makes the case as for why. Proximity to Philly?
Probably because Baltimore has the most identifiable "Little Italy".
 
Old 09-22-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Since we've thrown St. Louis into the mix:

Italian American population: 137,722 4.9% of MSA
Italian single ancestry: 46,144 1.6% of MSA
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Probably because Baltimore has the most identifiable "Little Italy".
More so than North Beach?

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Old 09-22-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Have you ever been to Metairie? It seems to have a strong Italian concentration (relatively speaking)?
I've driven through it plenty of times, but I don't really know that area that well. I have a number of good friends from New Orleans(post-Katrina transplants out west) who would always talk about the Yats(people speaking the Yat accent) out in the suburbs like Metairie--a lot of the old Italian/Irish/German descended folks moved out there. I once met an old Italian-American dentist on a plane flying out there who lived in Metairie who grew up in the Lower Garden District who told me the name of a bunch of Italian places to go including a few in the suburbs(though I never followed up on going out there).

It'd be interesting to explore some of the restaurants out there more though--since most visitors usually stick to just New Orleans itself.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Italian American population:

San Francisco MSA 232,147 5.3%
Baltimore MSA 177,699 6.5%
New Orleans MSA 105,533 9.1%

Italian single ancestry:

San Francisco MSA 82,066
Baltimore MSA 58,336
New Orleans MSA 38,789

Speak Italian at home:

San Francisco MSA 13,424
Baltimore MSA 5,937
New Orleans MSA 1,018

Born in Italy:

San Francisco MSA 6,425
Baltimore MSA 2,007
New Orleans MSA 424
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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The white population has declined in all of these cities since 1950.

Baltimore leads in the poll, yet nobody actually makes the case as for why. Proximity to Philly?
I don't think Philly has anything to do with anything in Baltimore. I could be that Little Italy is in downtown Baltimore, or some other reason that I'm not aware of at this time.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Italian American population:

San Francisco MSA 232,147 5.3%
Baltimore MSA 177,699 6.5%
New Orleans MSA 105,533 9.1%

Italian single ancestry:

San Francisco MSA 82,066
Baltimore MSA 58,336
New Orleans MSA 38,789

Speak Italian at home:

San Francisco MSA 13,424
Baltimore MSA 5,937
New Orleans MSA 1,018

Born in Italy:

San Francisco MSA 6,425
Baltimore MSA 2,007
New Orleans MSA 424
What's the percentage of Italian ancestry among the entire US population? I was looking quickly and it looks like it's about 5.5%.
 
Old 09-22-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I haven't spent much time in North Beach tbh but if it's anything like Little Italy in San Diego (which I honestly have no idea if it is or isn't) it left a lot to be desired and seemed pretty inauthentic. Baltimore's just has that old school East Coast Little Italy feel-although to a smaller degree.
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