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Old 10-17-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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Took me a while to compile this and put them in order. I also want to address the off-topic conversations or the bickering and personal attacks that are rampant on this forum. That wont be okay here, if this goes off topic, then I would like for a moderator to intervene and shut this thread down and to do so immediately.

Other than that, enjoy the results.

Top 25 by decade using present day Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) boundaries (some MSA's maybe missing a county or two, so you'll notice a bit of a hiccup for a few places or all places but not much (at most 100,000 that's it for the larger cities) as "missing counties" will not be major ones but rather the less noticeable ones. I'll also put an "others" option for the metropolitan areas that are major metropolitan areas today but didn't make it into the top 25 earlier on in American history.

1900:
01. New York: 5,417,000
02. Chicago: 2,256,000
03. Philadelphia: 2,052,000
04. Boston: 1,890,000
05. Pittsburgh: 1,304,000
06. Saint Louis: 1,001,000
07. Cincinnati: 760,000
08. Baltimore: 737,000
09. Providence: 681,000
10. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 650,000
11. Washington DC: 593,000
12. Cleveland: 552,000
13. Kansas City: 545,000
14. Atlanta: 534,000
15. Detroit: 529,000
16. San Francisco-Oakland: 519,000
17. Buffalo: 509,000
18. Indianapolis: 463,000
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 452,000
20. Columbus: 416,000
21. Louisville: 408,000
22. Milwaukee: 405,000
23. Nashville: 399,000
24. New Orleans: 375,000
25. Memphis: 327,000

Others:
Charlotte: 303,000
Richmond: 269,000
Hartford: 262,000
Houston: 202,000
Los Angeles: 190,000
Denver: 185,000
Portland: 172,000
San Antonio: 136,000
Tampa: 46,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 46,000
San Diego: 35,000
Phoenix: 28,000
Miami: 5,000
Las Vegas: 0

1910:
01. New York: 7,452,000
02. Chicago: 2,931,000
03. Philadelphia: 2,442,000
04. Boston: 2,261,000
05. Pittsburgh: 1,780,000
06. Saint Louis: 1,214,000
07. Providence: 861,000
08. Cincinnati: 819,000
09. Baltimore: 815,000
10. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 808,000
11. Cleveland: 775,000
12. Detroit: 710,000
13 San Francisco-Oakland: 746,000
14. Washington DC: 658,000
15. Atlanta: 646,000
16. Kansas City: 643,000
17. Buffalo: 621,000
18. Dallas-Fort Worth: 571,000
19. Los Angeles: 539,000
20. Indianapolis: 517,000
21. Milwaukee: 511,000
22. Columbus: 487,000
23. New Orleans: 443,000
24. Louisville: 432,000
25. Nashville: 421,000

Others:
Memphis: 372,000
Charlotte: 356,000
Portland: 336,000
Hartford: 322,000
Richmond: 310,000
Denver: 267,000
Houston: 252,000
San Antonio: 203,000
Tampa: 91,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 91,000
San Diego: 62,000
Phoenix: 44,000
Miami: 18,000
Las Vegas: 3,000

1920:
01. New York: 8,905,000
02. Chicago: 3,711,000
03. Philadelphia: 2,923,000
04. Boston: 2,563,000
05. Pittsburgh: 2,101,000
06. Detroit: 1,407,000
07. Saint Louis: 1,349,000
08. Cleveland: 1,104,000
09. Los Angeles: 998,000
10. San Francisco-Oakland: 969,000
11. Providence: 963,000
12. Baltimore: 947,000
13. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 921,000
14. Cincinnati: 869,000
15. Washington DC: 786,000
16. Buffalo: 753,000
17. Atlanta: 748,000
18. Kansas City: 739,000
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 701,000
20. Milwaukee: 624,000
21. Seattle: 601,000
22. Indianapolis: 596,000
23. Columbus: 548,000
24. Rochester: 536,000
25. New Orleans: 486,000

Others:
Birmingham: 483,000
Louisville: 452,000
Nashville: 433,000
Memphis: 415,000
Charlotte: 414,000
Hartford: 411,000
Richmond: 365,000
Houston: 349,000
Denver: 316,000
San Antonio: 289,000
Virginia Beach: 288,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 124,000
Tampa: 120,000
Phoenix: 106,000
Miami: 67,000

1930:
01. New York: 11,359,000
02. Chicago: 4,882,000
03. Philadelphia: 3,361,000
04. Boston: 2,867,000
05. Pittsburgh: 2,382,000
06. Los Angeles: 2,327,000
07. Detroit: 2,293,000
08. Saint Louis: 1,557,000
09. Cleveland: 1,397,000
10. San Francisco-Oakland: 1,307,000
11. Baltimore: 1,083,000
12. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 1,070,000
13. Providence: 1,052,000
14. Cincinnati: 1,023,000
15. Buffalo: 912,000
16. Washington DC: 884,000
17. Kansas City: 875,000
18. Dallas-Fort Worth: 835,000
19. Milwaukee: 822,000
20. Atlanta: 815,000
21. Seattle: 706,000
22. Indianapolis: 681,000
23. Columbus: 624,000
24. Birmingham: 616,000
25. Rochester: 611,000

Others:
New Orleans: 577,000
Houston: 546,000
Charlotte: 531,000
Louisville: 519,000
Memphis: 502,000
Hartford: 501,000
Portland: 500,000
Nashville: 478,000
Richmond: 393,000
San Antonio: 389,000
Denver: 368,000
Virginia Beach: 291,000
Tampa: 231,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 215,000
Miami: 215,000
San Diego: 210,000
Phoenix: 173,000

1940:
01. New York: 12,211,000
02. Chicago: 5,043,000
03. Philadelphia: 3,448,000
04. Boston: 2,927,000
05. Los Angeles: 2,916,000
06. Detroit: 2,507,000
07. Pittsburgh: 2,452,000
08. Saint Louis: 1,638,000
09. Cleveland: 1,432,000
10. San Francisco-Oakland: 1,413,000
11. Washington DC: 1,198,000
12. Baltimore: 1,189,000
13. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 1,162,000
14. Providence: 1,078,000
15. Cincinnati: 1,071,000
16. Buffalo: 958,000
17. Dallas-Fort Worth: 927,000
18. Atlanta: 921,000
19. Kansas City: 883,000
20. Milwaukee: 877,000
21. Seattle: 776,000
22. Houston: 753,000
23. Indianapolis: 729,000
24. Columbus: 664,000
25. Birmingham: 658,000

Others:
New Orleans: 632,000
Rochester: 629,000
Charlotte: 606,000
Memphis: 564,000
Louisville: 557,000
Portland: 553,000
Hartford: 538,000
San Antonio: 438,000
Denver: 425,000
Richmond: 420,000
Virginia Beach: 314,000
Miami: 388,000
Tampa: 292,000
San Diego: 289,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 267,000
Phoenix: 215,000

1950:
01. New York: 13,589,000
02. Chicago: 5,761,000
03. Los Angeles: 4,368,000
04. Philadelphia: 3,973,000
05. Boston: 3,187,000
06. Detroit: 3,170,000
07. Pittsburgh: 2,581,000
08. San Francisco-Oakland: 2,136,000
09. Saint Louis: 1,893,000
10. Washington DC: 1,721,000
11. Cleveland: 1,681,000
12. Baltimore: 1,472,000
13. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 1,346,000
14. Dallas-Fort Worth: 1,262,000
15. Cincinnati: 1,235,000
16. Providence: 1,173,000
17. Seattle: 1,120,000
18. Atlanta: 1,091,000
19. Buffalo: 1,089,000
20. Houston: 1,083,000
21. Milwaukee: 1,014,000
22. Kansas City: 1,001,000
23. Indianapolis: 860,000
24. Columbus: 794,000
25. New Orleans: 770,000

Others:
Portland: 766,000
Birmingham: 754,000
Charlotte: 714,000
Rochester: 693,000
Miami: 694,000
Memphis: 685,000
Hartford: 652,000
San Antonio: 604,000
Nashville: 598,000
Denver: 578,000
San Diego: 557,000
Richmond: 504,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 452,000
Tampa: 436,000
Virginia Beach: 427,000
Sacramento: 376,000
Phoenix: 375,000

1960:
01. New York: 15,706,000
02. Chicago: 7,017,000
03. Los Angeles: 6,743,000
04. Philadelphia: 4,757,000
05. Detroit: 3,950,000
06. Boston: 3,516,000
07. Pittsburgh: 2,769,000
08. San Francisco-Oakland: 2,649,000
09. Washington DC: 2,327,000
10. Saint Louis: 2,248,000
11. Cleveland: 2,127,000
12. Baltimore: 1,820,000
13. Dallas-Fort Worth: 1,780,000
14. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 1,697,000
15. Houston: 1,595,000
16. Cincinnati: 1,534,000
17. Miami: 1,497,000
18. Seattle: 1,429,000
19. Atlanta: 1,398,000
20. Buffalo: 1,307,000
21. Milwaukee: 1,279,000
22. Providence: 1,258,000
23. Kansas City: 1,247,000
24. Indianapolis: 1,102,000
25. San Diego: 1,033,000

Others:
Columbus: 1,026,000
New Orleans: 988,000
Portland: 882,000
Denver: 869,000
Hartford: 847,000
Louisville: 846,000
Charlotte: 835,000
Tampa: 820,000
Memphis: 819,000
Rochester: 819,000
Birmingham: 812,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 810,000
San Antonio: 797,000
Virginia Beach: 736,000
Phoenix: 726,000

1970:
01. New York: 17,506,000
02. Los Angeles: 8,452,000
03. Chicago: 7,887,000
04. Philadelphia: 5,317,000
05. Detroit: 4,431,000
06. Boston: 3,918,000
07. Washington DC: 3,164,000
08. San Francisco-Oakland: 3,110,000
09. Pittsburgh: 2,759,000
10. Saint Louis: 2,521,000
11. Dallas-Fort Worth: 2,429,000
12. Cleveland: 2,321,000
13. Miami: 2,237,000
14. Houston: 2,195,000
15. Baltimore: 2,089,000
16. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 2,080,000
17. Atlanta: 1,852,000
18. Seattle: 1,833,000
19. Cincinnati: 1,680,000
20. Kansas City: 1,415,000
22. Milwaukee: 1,404,000
23. Providence: 1,391,000
24. San Diego: 1,358,000
25. Buffalo: 1,349,000

Others:
Indianapolis: 1,284,000
Columbus: 1,219,000
New Orleans: 1,144,000
Riverside-San Bernardino: 1,143,000
Denver: 1,116,000
Tampa: 1,106,000
Portland: 1,084,000
San Jose: 1,083,000
Virginia Beach: 1,065,000
Phoenix: 1,035,000

1980:
01. New York: 16,868,000
02. Los Angeles: 9,410,000
03. Chicago: 8,053,000
04. Philadelphia: 5,240,000
05. Detroit: 4,353,000
06. Boston: 3,939,000
07. Washington DC: 3,427,000
08. San Francisco-Oakland: 3,251,000
09. Miami: 3,221,000
10. Houston: 3,138,000
11. Dallas-Fort Worth: 3,034,000
12. Pittsburgh: 2,649,000
13. Saint Louis: 2,486,000
14. Atlanta: 2,338,000
15. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 2,256,000
16. Baltimore: 2,200,000
17. Cleveland: 2,174,000
18. Seattle: 2,093,000
19. San Diego: 1,862,000
20. Cincinnati: 1,741,000
21. Tampa: 1,614,000
22. Phoenix: 1,600,000
23. Riverside-San Bernardino: 1,558,000
24. Kansas City: 1,482,000
25. Denver: 1,451,000

1990:
01. New York: 17,413,000
02. Los Angeles: 11,274,000
03. Chicago: 8,182,000
04. Philadelphia: 5,435,000
05. Detroit: 4,249,000
06. Washington DC: 4,157,000
07. Boston: 4,134,000
08. Miami: 4,056,000
09. Dallas-Fort Worth:
10. Houston: 3,751,000
11. San Francisco-Oakland: 3,687,000
12. Atlanta: 3,082,000
13. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 2,595,000
14. Riverside-San Bernardino: 2,589,000
15. Seattle: 2,559,000
16. Saint Louis: 2,561,000
17. San Diego: 2,498,000
18. Pittsburgh: 2,468,000
19. Baltimore: 2,382,000
20. Phoenix: 2,238,000
21. Cleveland: 2,102,000
22. Tampa: 2,068,000
23. Cincinnati: 1,832,000
24. Denver: 1,650,000
25. Kansas City: 1,615,000

2000:
01. New York: 18,945,000
02. Los Angeles: 12,366,000
03. Chicago: 9,098,000
04. Philadelphia: 5,687,000
05. Dallas-Fort Worth: 5,204,000
06. Miami: 5,008,000
07. Washington DC: 4,837,000
08. Houston: 4,693,000
09. Detroit: 4,453,000
10. Boston: 4,391,000
11. Atlanta: 4,263,000
12. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,124,000
13. Riverside-San Bernardino: 3,255,000
14. Phoenix: 3,252,000
15. Seattle: 3,044,000
16. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 3,032,000
17. San Diego: 2,814,000
18. Saint Louis: 2,675,000
19. Baltimore: 2,553,000
20. Pittsburgh: 2,431,000
21. Tampa: 2,396,000
22. Denver: 2,158,000
23. Cleveland: 2,148,000
24. Cincinnati: 1,995,000
25. Portland: 1,928,000

2010:
01. New York: 19,567,000
02. Los Angeles: 12,829,000
03. Chicago: 9,461,000
04. Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,426,000
05. Philadelphia: 5,965,000
06. Houston: 5,920,000
07. Washington DC: 5,636,000
08. Miami: 5,565,000
09. Atlanta: 5,287,000
10. Boston: 4,552,000
11. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,335,000
12. Detroit: 4,296,000
13. Riverside-San Bernardino: 4,225,000
14. Phoenix: 4,193,000
15. Seattle: 3,440,000
16. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 3,349,000
17. San Diego: 3,095,000
18. Saint Louis: 2,788,000
19. Tampa: 2,783,000
20. Baltimore: 2,710,000
21. Denver: 2,543,000
22. Pittsburgh: 2,356,000
23. Charlotte: 2,217,000
24. Portland: 2,226,000
25. San Antonio: 2,143,000

2013:
01. New York: 19,832,000
02. Los Angeles: 13,053,000
03. Chicago: 9,522,000
04. Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,701,000
05. Houston: 6,177,000
06. Philadelphia: 6,019,000
07. Washington DC: 5,860,000
08. Miami: 5,763,000
09. Atlanta: 5,458,000
10. Boston: 4,641,000
11. San Francisco-Oakland: 4,456,000
12. Riverside-San Bernardino: 4,350,000
13. Phoenix: 4,330,000
14. Detroit: 4,292,000
15. Seattle: 3,552,000
16. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 3,422,000
17. San Diego: 3,177,000
18. Tampa: 2,843,000
19. Saint Louis: 2,796,000
20. Baltimore: 2,753,000
21. Denver: 2,645,000
22. Pittsburgh: 2,361,000
23. Charlotte: 2,297,000
24. Portland: 2,290,000
25: San Antonio: 2,234,000

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Old 10-17-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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1900 - 2013 Growth:
Miami MSA Population in 1900: 5,000
Miami MSA Population in 2013: 5,763,000

Miami MSA Numerical Increase: + 5,758,000
Miami MSA Percentage Increase: +1,150% growth

Only topped by Las Vegas' staggering (nearly) 2,000,000% () population increase in the last 113 years of the United States (around the time when the Cubs last won a World Series ). Las Vegas went from 0 people to nearly 2 million people.

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Old 10-17-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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I forget exactly when it was that Dallas' MSA and Fort Worth's MSA joined as one, but I know it doesn't go all the way back to the early 20th century. Not even close. I can remember even in my lifetime when there was still a lot of wide open farmland between the two metros.

I would have to do some digging, but I think maybe the 1970 census was when it was first recognized as a single MSA. And even then they were still pretty well separated.
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Old 10-17-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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Philly was fourth in 2000 but can find itself 7th in 2020. Maybe even 8th.
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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Interesting data. It seems Detroit peaked in 2000, Buffalo in 1970, and Pittsburgh in 1960.
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:12 PM
 
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The FL ones are interesting. Jacksonville has pretty much been forgotten even though it started out at the top...

in thousands

1900
Jax 69
Tampa Bay 46
Orlando 22
South FL 5

1910
Jax 110 (59%)
Tampa Bay 91 (98%)
Orlando 34 (55%)
South FL 18 (260%)

1920
Jax 149 (35%)
Tampa Bay 130 (43%)
South FL 67 (370%)
Orlando 51 (50%)

1930
South FL 215 (321%)
Tampa Bay 210 (62%)
Jax 197 (32%)
Orlando 102 (100%)

1940
South FL 388 (80%)
Tampa Bay 292 (39%)
Jax 254 (29%)
Orlando 130 (27%)

1950
South FL 694 (79%)
Tampa Bay 436 (49%)
Jax 362 (43%)
Orlando 190 (46%)

1960
South FL 1,497 (116%)
Tampa Bay 820 (88%)
Jax 530 (46%)
Orlando 395 (108%)

1970
South FL 2,237 (49%)
Tampa Bay 1,106 (35%)
Jax 622 (17%)
Orlando 523 (32%)

1980
South FL 3,221 (44%)
Tampa Bay 1,614 (46%)
Orlando 805 (54%)
Jax 738 (19%)

1990
South FL 4,056 (26%)
Tampa Bay 2,068 (28%)
Orlando 1,225 (52%)
Jax 925 (25%)

2000
South FL 5,008 (23%)
Tampa Bay 2,396 (16%)
Orlando 1,645 (34%)
Jax 1,123 (21%)

2010
South FL 5,565 (11%)
Tampa Bay 2,783 (16%)
Orlando 2,134 (30%)
Jax 1,346 (20%)

2013
South FL 5,763 (11.9%)
Tampa Bay 2,843 (7.2%)
Orlando 2,224 (14.1%)
Jax 1,378 (7.9% annualized)


Average decadal growth:

South FL 115.9%
Orlando 50.2%
Tampa Bay 43.9%
Jax 29.5%

Compound Annual Growth Rate (1900-2013):

South FL 6.5%
Orlando 4.2%
Tampa Bay 3.8%
Jax 2.7%
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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The FL ones are interesting. Jacksonville has pretty much been forgotten even though it started out at the top...

in thousands

1900
Jax 69
Tampa Bay 46
Orlando 22
South FL 5
I think the early figures for the Miami MSA only include Miami-Dade. Palm Beach and Broward counties aren't included in that MSA until more recently.
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Old 10-17-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Philly was fourth in 2000 but can find itself 7th in 2020. Maybe even 8th.
When I originally looked at this, I thought that he (Wendell Cox) had overlooked a few counties because the 2013 populations for these MSA's didn't match up to what the census bureau has released after the definition realignment last year. Then I started to check his work and found that he was almost 100% on point in his calculations all the way up to the 2010 numbers. It seems Wendell used 2012 numbers and accidentally thought they were 2013 numbers when he published his report. That's why every MSA's 2013 numbers (or most) are like 100,000 less than what they actually are by the census.

The reason I'm mentioning this is because you brought up a legit observation, Spade, but the truth is that it's even closer than that as of last year.

2010:
06. Philadelphia MSA: 5,965,343
07. Washington DC MSA: 5,636,232
08. Miami-Fort Lauderdale MSA: 5,564,635
09. Atlanta MSA: 5,286,728

2013: (By the census bureau itself)
06. Philadelphia MSA: 6,034,678
07. Washington DC MSA: 5,949,859
08. Miami-Fort Lauderdale MSA: 5,828,191
09. Atlanta MSA: 5,522,942

Both Miami and Washington DC are within 200,000 of Philadelphia's population (okay Miami a few thousand more than 200,000 but that's a negligible amount). For perspective since 2010 to 2013, Washington DC MSA has gained + 313,627 people; Miami-Fort Lauderdale MSA has gained + 263,556 people; Atlanta MSA has gained + 236,214 people; and Philadelphia MSA has gained + 70,336 people.

Now no one has a crystal ball but Miami-Fort Lauderdale and Florida in general have just had their best year in employment growth, population growth, migration inflow, immigration increase since the recession in 2014. Florida's state economists foresee an accelerated population growth for Southeast Florida.

That being said, Philadelphia whether sixth or eighth is still a great / cool city and while anything can happen, I think it's moving down to eighth by census year which isn't that far away now. Washington DC is really close to it's population already, less than 100,000 from it and has a higher rate of immigration and fertility rate (by a lot). Miami is also gearing up, although the fertility rate in Philadelphia is better than Miami's. Another 5 more years and the census workers will be knocking on your doors again, doing their surveys. Time goes by really fast, truthfully.
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I think the early figures for the Miami MSA only include Miami-Dade. Palm Beach and Broward counties aren't included in that MSA until more recently.
All three counties for Miami MSA are included from 1900 to 2013. For all metropolitan areas it is using present day land boundaries for the decennial figures from 1900 to 2010 (and 2013) and all MSA's.
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All three counties for Miami MSA are included from 1900 to 2013. For all metropolitan areas it is using present day land boundaries for the decennial figures from 1900 to 2010 (and 2013) and all MSA's.
You're correct. I overlooked the fact that it's using 2013 MSA boundaries.
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