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Old 11-03-2014, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Some numbers to keep in mind;

Population:
1. Southern United States: 118,383,453
2. Western United States: 74,254,423
3. Midwestern United States: 67,547,890
4. Northeastern United States: 55,943,073

Population:
01. New York (CSA): 23.4 Million people
02. Los Angeles (CSA): 18.4 Million people
03. Chicago (CSA): 9.9 Million people
04. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WY (CSA): 9.4 Million people
05. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 8.4 Million people
06. Boston (CSA): 8 Million people
07. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 7.2 Million people
08. Philadelphia (CSA): 7.1 Million people
09. Houston (CSA): 6.5 Million people
10. Miami (CSA): 6.4 Million people
11. Atlanta (CSA): 6.1 Million people
12. Detroit (CSA): 5.2 Million people
13. Seattle (CSA): 4.6 Million people
14. Phoenix (MSA): 4.5 Million people
15. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 3.7 Million people
16. Denver (CSA): 3.2 Million people
17. San Diego (MSA): 3.1 Million people
18. Orlando (CSA): 2.9 Million people
19. Tampa (MSA): 2.8 Million people

Total transplant population:
01. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA): 3,542,688 ( Raw number leader)
02. New York (CSA): 3,417,344
03. Los Angeles (CSA): 2,816,721
04. Atlanta (CSA): 2,150,353
05. Phoenix (MSA): 2,066,290
06. Boston (CSA): 1,862,982
07. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 1,812,483
08. Chicago (CSA): 1,772,564
09. Philadelphia (CSA): 1,586,562
10. Seattle (CSA): 1,583,956
11. Miami (MSA): 1,538,231
12. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 1,432,952
13. Tampa (MSA): 1,386,810
14. Denver (CSA): 1,386,050
15. Houston (CSA): 1,332,151
16. Orlando (CSA): 1,307,418
17. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 891,496
18. Detroit (CSA): 878,299
19. San Diego (MSA): 858,053

Northeastern United States:
01. New York (CSA): 1,990,245 (from outside of the states in the Tri-State Area (NY, NJ, CT)
02. Boston (CSA): 1,245,175
03. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA): 1,043,319
04. Philadelphia (CSA): 917,391
05. Miami (MSA): 903,215
06. Los Angeles (CSA): 671,982
07. Tampa (MSA): 594,694
08. Orlando (CSA): 561,216
09. Atlanta (CSA): 488,200
10. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 384,940
11. Phoenix (MSA): 329,940
12. Chicago (CSA): 234,864
13. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 232,452
14. San Diego (MSA): 200,291
15. Denver (CSA): 195,405
16. Houston (CSA): 195,057
17. Seattle (CSA): 188,645
18. Detroit (CSA): 144,250
19. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 75,516

Southern United States:
01. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA): 1,677,357 (This is from Southern states outside the Washington/Baltimore region; DC, VA, MD, and WV)
02. Atlanta (CSA): 996,459
03. New York (CSA): 767,740
04. Los Angeles (CSA): 759,293
05. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 650,726
06. Houston (CSA): 554,169
07. Chicago (CSA): 522,644
08. Philadelphia (CSA): 420,829
09. Detroit (CSA): 363,620
10. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 356,252
11. Orlando (CSA): 321,316
12. Phoenix (MSA): 306,913
13. Tampa (MSA): 304,460
14. Denver (CSA): 297,655
15. Miami (MSA): 281,373
16. Seattle (CSA): 278,133
17. Boston (CSA): 266,313
18. San Diego (MSA): 219,048
19. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 111,566

Midwestern United States:
01. Los Angeles (CSA): 884,742
02. Chicago (CSA): 829,788
03. Phoenix (MSA): 758,085
04. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 572,993
05. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 531,597
06. Denver (CSA): 530,130
07. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA): 478,958
08. Atlanta (CSA): 470,299
09. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 407,520
10. Seattle (CSA): 405,246
11. Tampa (MSA): 400,848
12. New York (CSA): 376,501
13. Orlando (CSA): 345,986
14. Houston (CSA): 328,851
15. Detroit (CSA): 288,851
16. San Diego (MSA): 282,296
17. Miami (MSA): 270,222
18. Boston (CSA): 204,326
19. Philadelphia (CSA): 148,786

Western United States:
01. Seattle (CSA): 711,732
02. Phoenix (MSA): 671,352
03. Los Angeles (CSA): 500,704
04. Dallas/Fort Worth (CSA): 397,708
05. Denver (CSA): 362,830
06. Washington/Baltimore, DC-MD-VA-WV (CSA): 343,054
07. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 284,240
08. New York (CSA): 282,858
09. Houston (CSA): 254,074
10. Atlanta (CSA): 195,395
11. Chicago (CSA): 185,268
12. San Diego (MSA): 155,818
13. Boston (CSA): 144,938
14. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 131,411
15. Philadelphia (CSA): 99,556
16. Tampa (MSA): 86,848
17. Miami (MSA): 83,271
18. Detroit (CSA): 81,758
19. Orlando (CSA): 78,820

The transplant population is configured by including only the people moving to each of these metropolitan areas from states outside of their host state(s). For example, for Atlanta it takes into accounts all people that have moved to Atlanta from states OUTSIDE of Georgia and breaks it down further from where they came (the four American regions). For Washington DC/Baltimore, it is configuring all transplants to the area that are from OUTSIDE of Maryland, Virginia, and West Virginia.

Cities that have more transplants from a region outside of their host region (the region of the country it's officially in) include Los Angeles (Midwest, South, Northeast; same order), San Diego (Midwest, South, Northeast), San Francisco Bay Area (Midwest, Northeast, South), Detroit (South), Miami (Northeast), Orlando (Northeast and Midwest), Tampa (Northeast and Midwest), Phoenix (Midwest), Denver (Midwest). Everywhere else is in line with it's host region. The three major California population centers appear to be popular migratory destinations among everyone except other Westerners.

When you remove Baltimore, these numbers for Washington DC's total transplant population look EVEN more staggering since the metropolitan area population goes down by 3.4 million by removing Baltimore and the transplant population remains well over 3 million for a metropolitan area that's just a hair shy of 6 million people.

Source: United States census department and Lets Eat Candy.

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Old 11-03-2014, 09:58 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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MAH DUDE!

There really aren't very many native Westerners, which is why they don't really have a huge presence outside of the West except for Texas.

I still think its funny how Miami has nearly as many Northeastern transplants as Philadelphia, a city located in the Northeast.
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Old 11-03-2014, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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MAH DUDE!

There really aren't very many native Westerners, which is why they don't really have a huge presence outside of the West except for Texas.

I still think its funny how Miami has nearly as many Northeastern transplants as Philadelphia, a city located in the Northeast.
Miami has built a wrong reputation for being a domestic migratory destination because that is no longer applicable, not to the extent it was 1960 - 2000. These days and these days being the last 5 - 15 years only so for Tri-State Area people, otherwise no other group (Chicagoans, Bostonians, so on) stand out in Southeast Florida, really. Miami's total transplant population is actually middle of the pack.

This is because Miami's growth is almost 100% fueled off of immigration. There is a small net domestic migration to Miami and the natural increase (births minus deaths) cancels those gains out almost evenly. Leaving the entire population growth to come from immigration, primarily from Latin America.

Miami is technically no longer becoming "Northeastern" or "Southern" at all, that stopped 10 - 15 years ago when Latin America overtook those two regions as the primary feeder region into Southeast Florida. Northeasterners are increasingly headed to North Carolina, more and more frequently now. Even former Northeasterners in Florida are headed that direction now more frequently.

One more point. Notice for Midwestern people, the largest destination in the United States is not the center of their region (Chicago) but rather Los Angeles and increasingly Phoenix.

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Old 11-04-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The City
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Interesting

what sort of surprised me is if you look at say Philly and Houston

Philly had more total transplants (higher sourced by the region) but even if you exclude the intra-region they are close with Houston at about 800K and Philly at about 700K in total - expected a different story there
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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Interesting

what sort of surprised me is if you look at say Philly and Houston

Philly had more total transplants (higher sourced by the region) but even if you exclude the intra-region they are close with Houston at about 800K and Philly at about 700K in total - expected a different story there
Greater Houston's growth is 80% natural increase (68,000; 2013) + immigration (32,000; 2013). Only in more recent years (2006 - 2014) has it started gaining domestic migrants (last year was 38,000 (usually somewhere in the 20,000 - 40,000 range annually)). Among all the Sunbelt cities, it is very late to the migration table, but when it started gaining domestic migrants (from outside of TX) is also when Atlanta ultimately started showing it's first cool-offs and then slowed down.

Atlanta has sort of become a "feeder" region into Houston in the last 3-4 years specifically. Houston has been the largest recipient of STEM / engineers in the country (after San Jose) for a few years now, large feeder school in Georgia Tech (for Chemical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, so on) and Emory.

Philadelphia has traditionally been one of the Eastern Seaboards' braintrust for decades now, pretty much a huge beneficiary from nearby cities. Migration has played a larger role in Philadelphia's growth the last half of a century as compared to Houston (which only just recently started receiving migrants in large scale more so from out of TX). Migrants from out of state that were coming into TX before were headed to Austin or Dallas/Fort Worth, it seems.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Miami has built a wrong reputation for being a domestic migratory destination because that is no longer applicable, not to the extent it was 1960 - 2000. These days and these days being the last 5 - 15 years only so for Tri-State Area people, otherwise no other group (Chicagoans, Bostonians, so on) stand out in Southeast Florida, really. Miami's total transplant population is actually middle of the pack.

This is because Miami's growth is almost 100% fueled off of immigration. There is a small net domestic migration to Miami and the natural increase (births minus deaths) cancels those gains out almost evenly. Leaving the entire population growth to come from immigration, primarily from Latin America.

Miami is technically no longer becoming "Northeastern" or "Southern" at all, that stopped 10 - 15 years ago when Latin America overtook those two regions as the primary feeder region into Southeast Florida. Northeasterners are increasingly headed to North Carolina, more and more frequently now. Even former Northeasterners in Florida are headed that direction now more frequently.

One more point. Notice for Midwestern people, the largest destination in the United States is not the center of their region (Chicago) but rather Los Angeles and increasingly Phoenix.
Pretty much. I'd say most of the Blue votes that South Florida gets nowadays comes from the immigrant population rather than Liberal Northern transplants. Miami is hardly the 6th borough nowadays. Many of the Northerners that still take residence in South Florida often complain about the influx of immigrants from the Caribbean and many of those Northerners are headed North(to the South), the same way native Florida Crackers had migrated out of South Florida because of the influx of Northerners 35+ yrs ago. Gone are the days when Miami sports arenas/stadiums were referred to as Madison Square Garden/Yankees Stadium/Meadowlands "South". You don't hear too many Knicks fans at Heat games anymore. South Florida culture or "Floribbean" culture is coming to its own. Most of the Northerners who still migrate to South Florida happen to be West Indian or Latino anyway. So they end up bringing more Latin cultural identity, rather than any Northern or New Yorker cultural allegiance.

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Old 11-04-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Miami, DC and Atlanta lead the nation as far as "cities where I hardly meet anybody who's actually from here." In Miami, only 29% of the non-Hispanic White population was born in the state of Florida. Add in the rest of the foreign-born population (West Indians and Hispanics) and you have a city where the vast bulk of the population isn't deeply rooted in the region.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Miami, DC and Atlanta lead the nation as far as "cities where I hardly meet anybody who's actually from here." In Miami, only 29% of the non-Hispanic White population was born in the state of Florida. Add in the rest of the foreign-born population (West Indians and Hispanics) and you have a city where the vast bulk of the population isn't deeply rooted in the region.
There's a hybrid Floribbean culture. A good number of the Immigrants in the suburbs of Miami have been living in South Florida for 30+ years. So there are immigrants who are deeply rooted in native Florida culture. Latin culture has become the "new" native culture in South Florida. Floribbean Culture. Many Haitians, Bahamians, and Cubans who claim Florida as much as they claim their homelands.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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One more point. Notice for Midwestern people, the largest destination in the United States is not the center of their region (Chicago) but rather Los Angeles and increasingly Phoenix.
I found Midwestern migration patterns interesting, too. I also would have thought there would be a fairly even pull of Midwesterners to both coasts, but in actuality it looks pretty lopsided towards the West in general.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I still find it shocking that although Boston has a ton of transplants (#6 in the nation apparently) SUCH a huge amount of them are from other northeastern states!

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