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Old 03-04-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Ive long stated that we need an instant injection of tens of thousands of moderately priced units in the inner Bay Area. 80 from Richmond to Oakland and the 880 to Hayward would be perfect

Everything currently being built in SF now is for the wealthy

Until that changes, we can expects trends such as the following to continue:
New York City Is Still Cheaper For Renters Than San Francisco - Rental Market Reports - Curbed NY
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:36 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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NYC just has so many more options and better transit connecting less expensive areas. SF is tiny and a boutique city in comparison with far less options so I guess it's shouldn't come as a surprise it's more expensive now.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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Denver
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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NYC just has so many more options and better transit connecting less expensive areas. SF is tiny and a boutique city in comparison with far less options so I guess it's shouldn't come as a surprise it's more expensive now.
SF is disparaged by those who live on its fringes and don't understand its unique presence as one of America's premier cities. Keep repping Redwood City, or whatever miserable enclave you're from. The Peninsula is an afterthought on a good day. It's a habittrail for lemmings of the tech industry otherwise.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:08 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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SF is disparaged by those who live on its fringes and don't understand its unique presence as one of America's premier cities. Keep repping Redwood City, or whatever miserable enclave you're from. The Peninsula is an afterthought on a good day. It's a habittrail for lemmings of the tech industry otherwise.
Was there something I said in my post that wasn't true?

Lol, calm down cowboy. Nobody really cares what some recent transplant wannabe Herb Caen thinks about SF or the Bay Area.

I'm not from the Penninsula btw.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:42 AM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Herb Caen, now that's a blast from the past- miss that crotchety yet witty guy's column. I grew up with him. "Borinda" lol!
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Old 03-06-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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NYC just has so many more options and better transit connecting less expensive areas. SF is tiny and a boutique city in comparison with far less options so I guess it's shouldn't come as a surprise it's more expensive now.
Even adjusted for size, SF builds a lot less housing than NY. In fact, per capita SF builds slightly more than Detroit, for all the different reasons of course. Most of the city is pretty much restricted to development, and the areas that aren't command such high land prices that developers have to build luxury condos to justify building on that scarce land. We have the same problem in NYC, but its not nearly as bad as it is in SF.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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New York.

Followed by San Diego and then Denver, for me anyway.

Those three are three of my top favorite cities in North America. The latter two for their environment and manageability. The first one because it's the center of commerce in the first world and probably the most cosmopolitan place on planet Earth by a longshot.
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Denver is the only city I could survive, I am not rich enough to avoid paying taxes like Mitt Romney and the like.
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:56 PM
 
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i realize this list might be kind of odd. let me explain.

i have lived all of my 28 years in the NYC metro region. grew up in NJ, now live in Westchester, NY (just outside of Manhattan).

things i dislike in no particular order:
1. rat race
2. winter weather
3. COL
4. same old

things i like:
1. family/friends/gf
2. proximity to NYC
3. proximity to beach
4. proximity to "decent" mountains

growing up i have always dreamed of living in California. my brother moved to San Diego at 24-25, he is now in his 40's and settled in San Clemente. a lot of things appeal to me about California, most of all the weather and the scenery. i love the outdoors. i love to surf and snowboard and i love sunshine. i do not think i can live in the NE for my entire life, nor do i think i can afford it.

i am also throwing Denver/Boulder in there b/c i know they're beautiful areas with access to some of the best mountains in the country while still having a decent job market.

so, please weigh in and let me know your thoughts.

i didn't throw Seattle in the title but i have often considered that too.
Tough call. NYC is the safe choice based on your "likes", but if you dream of living in California and love the outdoors, and dont think you can live in NE your entire life, i say take the plunge with either Denver or SD. I'd probably choose Denver; COL is the best of the four, outdoorsy. The climate can be cold and unpredictable, but its pretty sunny. Solid Job market. SD if you covet the beach, but will be pricier. SF is too expensive.
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