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View Poll Results: Better January weather?
Santa Monica 29 47.54%
Miami Beach 32 52.46%
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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I find it hard to believe SaMo is a 11a while Miami Beach is in 10b. What plants can be grown in SaMo that can't be grown in Miami?
It's hard to believe because it's wrong.

Santa Monica is 10b, Miami is transitional between 10b and 11a, Miami Beach is 11a.
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Old 03-05-2015, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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I find it hard to believe SaMo is a 11a while Miami Beach is in 10b. What plants can be grown in SaMo that can't be grown in Miami?
I was curious, so I pulled out Santa Monica's weather from this January (2015)



Keep in mind several things, to be 11a, you can't see a temperature below 40F. On January 1st, Santa Monica recorded 38F meaning even on 2015, a record breaking warm winter for the west coast, Santa Monica wasn't 11a but rather 10b.

Now as to Miami, not Miami Beach, but Miami, saw 42F as its lowest temperature this February. And this was a COLD winter for us. But we still maintained a 11a condition of not dropping below 40F. For Miami to drop below 40F is rare, and basically comes maybe twice or three times a century. For Santa Monica, it will come almost every year.
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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Miami =/= Miami Beach. That's like me pulling out climate data for Los Angeles. Are you really this dense or are you trolling on purpose. Plus, it's not clear Santa Monica hasn't seen freezing, this 33 degrees was recorded over the pier, and who knows how long those records were going for.



Even in the everglades you have tropical vegetation growing like



Better yet if you actually think Santa Monica is in 11a, then show me Santa Monica's coconut palms, literally all over Miami Beach, I have at least 4 in my backyard that drop fruit all over me. Where are Santa Monica's coconut palms, show pictures

Fact is Miami has all the palms that grow in Santa Monica but has palms Santa Monica cannot grow because we're in a different and better hardness zone.
I've been to the Everglades many times. Don't act like there are jungles of royal palms growing everywhere, because there aren't. Mostly subtropical pine forest and marshland. Don't really even remember seeing one while I was there, however I know they are native to SoFla.

In all seriousness though, this thread is a major joke. Most pathetic attempt at boosterism I've seen here in a minute. You obviously have your point of view on how everyone should be jealous of your weather in Miami beach but to create a thread just to argue with people is laughable. Maybe not your original intention, but you came prepared to bicker. Grow up.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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I've been to the Everglades many times. Don't act like there are jungles of royal palms growing everywhere, because there aren't. Mostly subtropical pine forest and marshland. Don't really even remember seeing one while I was there, however I know they are native to SoFla.
Well, you're wrong. That palm tree I showed is found in the everglades, it's native to southern florida and the Caribbean.

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In all seriousness though, this thread is a major joke. Most pathetic attempt at boosterism I've seen here in a minute. You obviously have your point of view on how everyone should be jealous of your weather in Miami beach but to create a thread just to argue with people is laughable. Maybe not your original intention, but you came prepared to bicker. Grow up.
LOL, don't be butthurt. I started this thread to see what people think. If someone said he preferred Santa Monica's weather I wouldn't argue. But when you have LA-Mex proclaiming things that are untrue, it has to be shot down. I can't stand misinformation whether he is doing this from ignorance, lying or trolling purposes is harder to determine.

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Old 03-05-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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(Please tell me you recognize that I'm being sarcastic).
I recognize you're trying to make some point. What that point is, I don't understand. We're comparing Santa Monica to Miami Beach, two similarly sized beach cities plugged into larger metro areas (Los Angeles and Miami).
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Miami Beach and Santa Monica probably have similar humidity during the winter. Santa Monica is not bone dry, it's moderated by the Ocean and I'm guessing it's humidity levels are in the 60s, maybe even low 70s. Miami Beach is similar just 10-15 warmer.
For the whole month overall is probably similar, but California gets brutal at times:

Weather History for Santa Monica, CA | Weather Underground
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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Well, you're wrong. That palm tree I showed is found in the everglades, it's native to southern florida and the Caribbean.



LOL, don't be butthurt. I started this thread to see what people think. If someone said he preferred Santa Monica's weather I wouldn't argue. But when you have LA-Mex proclaiming things that are untrue, it has to be shot down. I can't stand misinformation whether he is doing this from ignorance, lying or trolling purposes is harder to determine.
I literally already said they were native. Can you read?

Also, you are to Miami what LA-Mex is to LA on this forum. Bickering about things so minute it's ridiculous.

You're both annoying...
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Old 03-05-2015, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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I literally already said they were native. Can you read?

Also, you are to Miami what LA-Mex is to LA on this forum. Bickering about things so minute it's ridiculous.

You're both annoying...
Cool if we both annoy you, but I don't repeatedly post falsehoods over and over and over. Sorry if this seems "minor" to you, but he is basically saying Santa Monica is a higher plant hardiness zone and can grow palms Miami cannot. Which would have anyone laughing hysterically if they been to both places.

It may not be important to argue about, but then nothing here is important. I'm just taking a break from work, so sue me.
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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As one who lives in SM ALL year long, I'll take it over Miami any time. Your winters may be a little warmer, but you can keep your summer heat and awful humidity. ( and your bugs). Lol
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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As one who lives in SM ALL year long, I'll take it over Miami any time. Your winters may be a little warmer, but you can keep your summer heat and awful humidity. ( and your bugs). Lol
We're not really hot in the summer, 88-92 F is 99% of the days in the summer. Last summer we didn't record a temperature above 95, and never in history did we record 100. Something Santa Monica has.

We're more humid than you in the summer. That's true.

Btw is 10F warmer in the winter "a little warmer"?
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