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Old 03-10-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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I'd like to see this done with the size challenged cities that anchor decent sized metro areas like Hartford, and Grand Rapids. Hartford is 18 sq mi. What would it's population be even at 100?
I have the numbers, but I'm not going to post them. I've learned my lesson.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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I have the numbers, but I'm not going to post them. I've learned my lesson.
Ok
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Ok
I can send them to you privately if you want.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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So I came up with a new list that accounts for everyone's geography complaints, general complaints and bruised egos:

1. Every City, USA.

The end. It's the Oprah way of ranking.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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...it was meant to be a fun little experiment, not meant to be taken as gospel truth.
I think what you're doing is great, and is a great start. With a bit of tweaking (like the algorithm I proposed on the last page), it could be the best way to compare cities, I believe.

Don't let the criticism get to you, I think most people mean well. I think most are just saying that what you're doing is great, but could be better.

Regardless, pretty much anything is better than just straight city limit comparisons.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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I think what you're doing is great, and is a great start. With a bit of tweaking (like the algorithm I proposed on the last page), it could be the best way to compare cities, I believe.

Don't let the criticism get to you, I think most people mean well. I think most are just saying that what you're doing is great, but could be better.

Regardless, pretty much anything is better than just straight city limit comparisons.
This
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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It's interesting that at 200 square miles Chicago is 600,000 people short of it's population at 222 square miles, which is the size of the whole city. On the other hand, a city like Philadelphia only gains 300,000 from its' city proper population by extending out another 70 square miles.That's a steep drop off in density right outside the core.
That 200 square miles for Chicago is almost half water if they do the circle from downtown.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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That 200 square miles for Chicago is almost half water if they do the circle from downtown.
True.... but isn't it also a reasonable assumption that Chicago wouldn't be nearly as dense if it weren't for the lake? It's an imperfect metric but it's what OP did.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The City
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True.... but isn't it also a reasonable assumption that Chicago wouldn't be nearly as dense if it weren't for the lake? It's an imperfect metric but it's what OP did.
sort of an interesting concept. density is a form of supply/demand of sorts

Waterfrontage can be an increase in demand and decrease in supply in many ways. Not sure any way to quantify but this plays in

Miami has a string of density along the ocean etc.

Manhattan and SF are compressed by water etc.

But not sure anyone can truly quantify this in this way
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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True.... but isn't it also a reasonable assumption that Chicago wouldn't be nearly as dense if it weren't for the lake? It's an imperfect metric but it's what OP did.
I don't think it's a reasonable assumption. I think Chicago's density has everything to do with it being a city that was planned before the nation became auto-centric. Almost all cities that grew during the industrial revolution have or had heightened levels of density. Chicago's lake proximity has everything to do with all big settlements being built up around major water bodies for transit and sustainability reasons. Under that same assumption one would have to assume that New York wouldn't be nearly as dense were it not for the Atlantic Ocean.
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