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Old 03-21-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I was getting the impression that one should not necessarily bring up DC, as an argument of causation, but I have always felt that DC was a valid choice for Black professionals due to it's cultural and historical significance in African-American history.
Understood.

D.C. is many times my default (1a) option when this kind of topic arises, partly due to reasons you have mentioned. The only real downgrade I give is for the COL, which is generally higher than in the Southern cities.

In the end, it's never a one size fits all. Some people prefer cities with a significant influence of people within their own ethnic group, others choose that's not much of a deciding factor. Do you.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Understood.

D.C. is many times my default (1a) option when this kind of topic arises, partly due to reasons you have mentioned. The only real downgrade I give is for the COL, which is generally higher than in the Southern cities.

In the end, it's never a one size fits all. Some people prefer cities with a significant influence of people within their own ethnic group, others choose that's not much of a deciding factor. Do you.

To me its not that much of a deciding factor because I've lived in cities where there was not a strong Black presence and it wasn't that big of a deal at the end of the day. Typically, in those cities, one runs into Black transients in a similar situation, and they find that they have a few things in common. As I mentioned earlier, I was in Madison, WI, and the Black culture there I found to be heavily assimilated into the hippie/hipster vibe of that city. This was back in 95 though, and the Black population was like 2% then. Murder was uncharistically low for a city of that size then as well, like you could count the number of people on one hand. But to me that was a great town.

I was young and was amused by how different the Blacks I did see in that town was, but I understand it now. I think another thing that is missing from this thread is that being Black is a quite different experience from the North to the South. The North has more of an assimilated, "Jewish" vibe and less of that country/rural thing you get in the South. I think that DC is a nice place to see a good mix of both aesthetic. Cities like Atlanta you are clearly, down South, whereas DC/Baltimore/Northern Virginia you don't get that warm and fuzzy Black feeling like you get in the South.
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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To me its not that much of a deciding factor because I've lived in cities where there was not a strong Black presence and it wasn't that big of a deal at the end of the day. Typically, in those cities, one runs into Black transients in a similar situation, and they find that they have a few things in common. As I mentioned earlier, I was in Madison, WI, and the Black culture there I found to be heavily assimilated into the hippie/hipster vibe of that city. This was back in 95 though, and the Black population was like 2% then. Murder was uncharistically low for a city of that size then as well, like you could count the number of people on one hand. But to me that was a great town.

I was young and was amused by how different the Blacks I did see in that town was, but I understand it now. I think another thing that is missing from this thread is that being Black is a quite different experience from the North to the South. The North has more of an assimilated, "Jewish" vibe and less of that country/rural thing you get in the South. I think that DC is a nice place to see a good mix of both aesthetic. Cities like Atlanta you are clearly, down South, whereas DC/Baltimore/Northern Virginia you don't get that warm and fuzzy Black feeling like you get in the South.
Huh? What does that mean and where does that come from, especially the Jewish vibe part?

Here is some information on Madison, btw: US2010
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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It seems that a lot of native black New Yorkers of a certain generation had similar accents to Jews - i.e. Charlie Rangel.
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Old 03-21-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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It seems that a lot of native black New Yorkers of a certain generation had similar accents to Jews - i.e. Charlie Rangel.
Maybe it is just a NY accent.......
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Old 03-21-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Huh? What does that mean and where does that come from, especially the Jewish vibe part?
I was wondering the same thing.
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Old 03-21-2015, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Huh? What does that mean and where does that come from, especially the Jewish vibe part?

Here is some information on Madison, btw: US2010
To me it seems like the cultures are not as distinct, and more alike, than dissimilar, up North. That could just be my perspective though.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Huh? What does that mean and where does that come from, especially the Jewish vibe part?

Here is some information on Madison, btw: US2010
I feel like we're more isolationists up North. Not necessarily antisocial, but not that welcoming either.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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I feel like we're more isolationists up North. Not necessarily antisocial, but not that welcoming either.
I'm still not understanding how this is related to the Jewish vibe comment.

People in the North aren't necessarily the same in that regard.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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I'm still not understanding how this is related to the Jewish vibe comment.

People in the North aren't necessarily the same in that regard.
I'm thinking the stereotypical, neurotic, Woody Allen tropes, not actual Judaism. That's why I tried the quotes I wasn't sure if I'd get the point across otherwise.
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