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I'm thinking the stereotypical, neurotic, Woody Allen tropes, not actual Judaism. That's why I tried the quotes I wasn't sure if I'd get the point across otherwise.
Still not seeing it.......I think the problem is that the North is being equated with NYC and even then, I don't see that.
Nevermind then. I think its off topic to the discussion anyway. The longer these discussions get the cloudier my talking points become. Plus I'm conflating myself and the Blacks I'm usually around, hipsters and other eccentrics, with everyone else and my world view which are my own issues that don't really have anything to do with being Black.
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DC also has a history of Black migration into the city from the South going back to the city for clerical work and administrative jobs, even coming from Virgina. But now people are hating on DC as a Black Mecca, as though that history does not matter. DC still offers good job opportunities for those Blacks that can get the work, even before Atlanta and Houston, and Charlotte, were hot from the seventies onward, smh.
No one is hating clearly I'm not hating. I acknowledge both in my post but Atlanta and DC are top dawgs they both will give you the best black experience.
But you know one thing I've noticed down here is that Houston has a large black gay population. I've noticed that the black gays enjoy and are mixed in with the straight crowd at clubs, bars, etc. I know Atlanta is the known black gay mecca, but Houston is no sloucher from what I've seen. I don't know if this has something to do with Houston having a lesbian mayor.
Sweetheart it doesn't even come close. When it comes to black gay experience it gets no better than Dc and Atlanta.
I know you want to push Houston which is a good option too, but it's no DC or Atlanta when it comes to the black experience
It's a matter of degree. Almost everything that Atlanta, DC, and NYC (as well as the "secondary" cities, to a smaller extent) excel in when it comes to all things Black can be found in most sizable cities in the country, but there are just way more options across the board in those cities.
What about Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia? Those cities more and less can equal Atlanta, DC, NYC, and Houston.
What about Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia? Those cities more and less can equal Atlanta, DC, NYC, and Houston.
They can, but more Blacks are experiencing greater wealth in the areas we're mentioning, particularly transients (although clearly, some Blacks are experiencing even greater wealth in the cities you've mentioned). Also depends on your education, you can come up in Atlanta, DC, NYC and Houston without a lot of education, whereas in Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia you're better off if you're over-educated in those towns.
You also have to look at the migration patterns. There is a reverse migration from Northern Black meccas to these newer, younger, Southern Black meccas. I've done it, Akron/Cleveland is no Black mecca but I'm getting more mileage for my situation here than I was back in Ohio. Doesn't necessarily mean that I can't or should not improve my situation but it does speak volumes to the opportunities that are available in the South, or those that continue to remain in NYC (for those that are in a position to take advantage of them).
What about Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia? Those cities more and less can equal Atlanta, DC, NYC, and Houston.
Houston isn't on the level of Atlanta, DC, and NYC and is a good example of a secondary city along with the other cities which I alluded to. Although Chicago still has a strong African American community in place, it's bleeding Blacks right now; Detroit and Philadelphia lack the strong professional Black network seen in Atlanta, DC, and NYC.
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Also depends on your education, you can come up in Atlanta, DC, NYC and Houston without a lot of education, whereas in Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia you're better off if you're over-educated in those towns.
You've got this reversed; Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia are more blue-collar whereas Atlanta and DC in particular are much more white-collar; you DEFINITELY have to have the degrees to move up in DC. It can probably go either way in Houston.
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Still not seeing it.......I think the problem is that the North is being equated with NYC and even then, I don't see that.
