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Old 03-27-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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While most definitely a major issue that's going to plague the state for years to come, how many transplants who are moving some place for a job are actually looking at such things? Very few, especially if we're talking recent college grads. Unemployment is down, and job growth is up in Chicago, so unless the bottom falls out on that, Chicago should be able to attract more transplants than it did from 2013-2014 in the near future.

The state's and the city's financials also hasn't seemed to scare away companies that have been relocating to the Loop in the past few years.
I don't disagree, but all these trends you describe are the same everywhere. All major cities have transplants and companies consolidating downtown. They're essentially irrelevant when comparing across metros.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I don't disagree, but all these trends you describe are the same everywhere. All major cities have transplants and companies consolidating downtown. They're essentially irrelevant when comparing across metros.
It's still a good thing, and if Chicago is able to do it better than many of other large Midwest metros it'll work in our favor.

We'll have to wait and see what happens though. I'm personally just glad that Chicagoland didn't shrink considering the state did.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Chicago MSA:
2010: 31,607
2011: 30,178
2012: 22,776
2013: 23,230
2014: 9,802

The country's economy has been in solid expansion since late 2012 to the start of 2013, deceleration to Chicago isn't mind-numbing until we get to 2014's numbers. By all accounts the July 1, 2013 - July 1, 2014 time period nationwide was far more optimistic than the previous four intervals before it. Yet Chicago decelerated substantially and that is what the problem is.

It paints a concerning picture when looking at future periods but if you're right and that Chicago is improving compared to previous years, it should show positively next year.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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Chicago MSA:
2010: 31,607
2011: 30,178
2012: 22,776
2013: 23,230
2014: 9,802

The country's economy has been in solid expansion since late 2012 to the start of 2013, deceleration to Chicago isn't mind-numbing until we get to 2014's numbers. By all accounts the July 1, 2013 - July 1, 2014 time period nationwide was far more optimistic than the previous four intervals before it. Yet Chicago decelerated substantially and that is what the problem is.
How do we know that the big drop in Chicago's estimates wasn't the censu bureau performing a correction on the previous years estimates?
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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About the comment a few pages back that the Bay Area's growth is due to cheaper inland counties, the data just doesnt really reflect that.

Bay Area in red
10 Fastest Growing Counties in California, 2010-2014
1 Alameda...Pop 1,610,921....$697,160 Median Home Price
2 Placer...Pop 371,694....$375,380
3 Riverside...Pop 2,329,371....$323,220
4 Santa Clara...Pop 1,894,605....$915,000
5 Contra Costa...Pop 1,111,339...$738,090
6 San Francisco...Pop 852,469...$1,154,760
7 San Mateo...Pop 758,581...$1,200,000

8 San Diego...Pop 3,263,431...$499,000
9 San Benito...Pop 58,267...$450,000
10 Orange...Pop 3,145,575...$680,290

Of the 6 Bay Area counties that are among the 10 fastest growing in California, only one is outside of the Inner Bay Area, San Benito. The other 5 are quite expensive yet have relatively booming populations.

Alameda County, the state's fastest growing, is affluent and highly educated, is both urban and suburban, has some of the top schools in the state, and has racial diversity on par with Queens and Brooklyn.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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It is one of the only major cities in the country seeing net domestic migration and is THE only city in CA seeing such, despite being the most expensive city in the country and one of the most expensive in the world.
Expensive cities in the world:
01. Singapore
02. Paris
03. Oslo
04. Zurich
05. Sydney
06. Melbourne
07. Geneva
08. Copenhagen
09. Hong Kong
10. Seoul

These Are the World's Most Expensive Cities

Top two in the United States though. No doubt. Top four in North America (New York, San Francisco, Vancouver, Honolulu).
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Expensive cities in the world:
01. Singapore
02. Paris
03. Oslo
04. Zurich
05. Sydney
06. Melbourne
07. Geneva
08. Copenhagen
09. Hong Kong
10. Seoul

These Are the World's Most Expensive Cities

Top two in the United States though. No doubt. Top four in North America (New York, San Francisco, Vancouver, Honolulu).
If that ranking is based on home prices, then Im not so sure some of those cities are more expensive than SF anymore.

Sydney and Melbourne for example were only more expensive than SF due to the Australian Dollar's favorable exchange rate-tgat has reversed significantly as the US Dollar has soared and left the AUD and other currencies like the Loon in the dust .


Even the Euro is at near parity with the Dollar.
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Old 03-28-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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If that ranking is based on home prices, then Im not so sure some of those cities are more expensive than SF anymore.

Sydney and Melbourne for example were only more expensive than SF due to the Australian Dollar's favorable exchange rate-tgat has reversed significantly as the US Dollar has soared and left the AUD and other currencies like the Loon in the dust .


Even the Euro is at near parity with the Dollar.

This is what I mean about currency exchange rates. The data from the ranking below is already wrong as Vancouver, Sydney and Melbourne are all lower now.

Vancouver housing market ranked second least affordable in the world
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Old 03-29-2015, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Reseda (heart of the SFV)
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Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale once again showed impressive gains and looks poised to pass Detroit and San Francisco in the next half decade or so. People seem to have a relatively negative opinion regarding Phoenix, particularly on this forum but I believe that Phoenix/Scottsdale should be celebrated by all Americans as the premier desert city of the United States of America; similar to New York City being the most prestigious city in America and LA being the entertainment capital of the world. Phoenix is America's premier desert city and all Americans from Maine to Oregon should take immense pride and celebrate the fact that we have a city that can compete with Cairo, Egypt and Casablanca, Morocco as one of the premier Desert cities in all of the world.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Largest CSAs and Uncombined MSAs 2014 Population
3,000,000+

New York 23,632,722
Los Angeles 18,550,288
Chicago 9,928,312
Washington DC 9,546,579
San Francisco 8,607,423
Boston 8,099,575
Dallas 7,352,613
Philadelphia 7,164,790
Houston 6,686,318
Miami 6,558,143
Atlanta 6,258,875
Detroit 5,315,251
Seattle 4,526,991
Phoenix 4,489,109
Minneapolis 3,835,050
Cleveland 3,497,851
Denver 3,345,261
San Diego 3,263,431
Portland 3,060,078
Orlando 3,045,707

Annual Population Growth, 2013-2014
Houston +156,745
Los Angeles +143,205
Dallas +134,291
San Francisco +113,366
Atlanta +94,293
New York +92,767
Phoenix +84,980
Washington DC +82,946
Miami +75,803
Orlando +64,999
Denver +64,650
Seattle +64,555
Boston +42,370
San Diego +40,152
Minneapolis +34,045
Philadelphia +16,179
Chicago +8,119
Detroit +589
Cleveland -1,749
Tampa is missing right? Or did Orlando pass it?
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