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View Poll Results: What will be N. America's first car free city? (US and Canada only)
NYC 35 42.68%
Toronto 2 2.44%
Chicago 0 0%
Philadelphia 4 4.88%
Ottawa 0 0%
San Francisco 7 8.54%
Seattle 6 7.32%
Boston 6 7.32%
DC 2 2.44%
Vancouver 9 10.98%
Portland 4 4.88%
Montreal 2 2.44%
Other 5 6.10%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2015, 02:13 PM
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by nei View Post
Unless you're driving in that direction, you'd pay nearly as much in tolls to get to New Jersey. Not worth the time and savings. I can make it to NYC and back from Massachusetts on a tank of gas, though sometimes get a warning gas light. Worth it to not fill up in New York and fill up here before hand.
Yes, but all of the taxis probably drop off people in NJ sometime during the day, plus a lot of the trucks are coming from NJ lots.

Gas in NJ is like $2.30 now, some stations have it at $1.90-$2...its easily 30-50 cents less than NY state on average.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:59 PM
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Originally Posted by munchitup View Post
The gas stations that ring DTLA have to be some of the most expensive in the country.
Probably but the ones around San Francisco, particularly in Sausalito and other North Bay communities take it even further. It is still over $5.60 in some of those places. It was well over $6.70 before gas prices plummeted. Also the entire Central Coast area, where Big Sur is, those little tiny shack designed wooden lodge sort of gas stations (even the ones by well known gas station brands) are comparably priced to the ones in Sausalito and other North Bay communities. The ones in the city of San Francisco are comparably priced to the price nei posted for the one in Manhattan, it seems like nearly a 100% price match.

That Sausalito/Big Sur example is $2.30 more than national average, going off the top of my head.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:09 PM
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A complete ban on cars in a city would never work. Unless you built a brand new city, you can't just expect current city residents to stop driving one day. Where are the cars going to go? What are they going to do with them? You can't TAKE them away, that is theft.

Likewise it would be against the ADA. What is someone with MS or a heart condition supposed to do? They're a perfectly functioning member of society, they work, have families, etc. They don't need a wheel chair, but they can't walk all over the place, to bus stops etc.
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:54 AM
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Not sure about car free, but for driver free it might be Pittsburgh (at least one neighborhood). Carnegie Mellon already has an SUV that can drive on its own.
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