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View Poll Results: Georgia, more in common with Alabama or North Carolina?
Alabama 146 62.13%
North Carolina 89 37.87%
Voters: 235. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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UGA probably won't even be in the SEC in the next few years. It will join up with the ACC or the Big Ten. UGA has more in common with Duke or Michigan than it does Auburn.


Says a poster from New York.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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UGA probably won't even be in the SEC in the next few years. It will join up with the ACC or the Big Ten. UGA has more in common with Duke or Michigan than it does Auburn.
There will likely be no more college football conference realignments in our lifetime. Also it would be the most ridiculous move in college football history. UGA would lose millions by leaving the SEC and the Big Ten would rather have Georgia Tech.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Take away Fulton and DeKalb counties, and the white democrat vote for Georgia by county is a mirror image of Mississippi and Alabama. I must say, I much prefer Chapel Hill to Athens. My wife and I took a trip to Athens a little while back and we were looking for a place to eat downtown, but 9 times out of 10 a place that caught our eye ened up being yet another bar. Much less bar-centric downtown when we visited a Chapel Hill. As for backward politicians, Marvin Griffith made Lestor Maddox look like a progressive. Griffith was the reason the stars and bars were put on the GA flag (to fight desegregation) and made the "by he'll or high water" comment when asked whether he would comply with federal law. And JayJay, where in the Triangle was the vote over 90% Republican and also over 90% for a same sex marriage ban (like southern Fayette County was). Even the most conservative fringes of Johnston County barely break 80%. Factor in places like Appling County and its upwards of 98%!
Johnston County isn't the most conservative county in the state. You need to look more into counties like Randolph, Yadkin, or Davidson. Basically the Piedmont counties closer to Greensboro, Winston-Salem, and Charlotte, those are the super conservative areas of North Carolina. Areas west of Charlotte are also about as Southern Baptist as you can get, too (counties such as Cleveland and Rutherford). The black voters in Eastern NC help, because Eastern NC was the area that Jesse Helms drew a ton of support from.

Just researched Marvin Griffin, and it's true that Georgia had way more of these Dixiecrat politicians as opposed to North Carolina. Even if they were segregationists, politicians usually had a quieter voice in North Carolina. Many of them didn't see the point challenging the Federal Government and fighting back, even if they'd rather keep segregation. Or, they managed to get around integration sneakily without drawing a big commotion like the Pearsall Plan after the Brown v. Board case. Also, North Carolina had more KKK members than the rest of the South combined for a few years (maybe 1962-66). This was mainly in response to politicians like Terry Sanford who were deemed "too progressive" by many NC whites (mainly poorer, rural whites). We were probably more progressive than many of the Deep South states, but still not that progressive.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Augusta GA
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Even Davidson, Yadkin, and Randolphs numbers are not on the level of many of the southern GA counties (especially looking at precinct level data). And Appling county has one of the highest Southern Baptist percentages in the south (as well as being one of a few south Ga counties that up until a few years ago were still holding separate proms for white and black students.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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Some areas of NC like Lumberton probably aren't too different from southern Georgia, but yes I definitely understand. Southern Georgia is really about as Deep South as you can get.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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^^So people in Georgia weren't acting a fool during the civil rights era..lol ok.

The main reason GA and NC dont have religious freedom law is because they haven't been passed as of yet in either state.

‘Religious freedom’ bill proposed for North Carolina | myfox8.com
Stop putting words in my mouth please.You know the history so why act like Im making it up?Alabama from Bimingham to Selma are known for what happened.

What incidents in GA of NC have incidents like those?
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Yeah sure, tell that to the millions of UGA and Tech fans. Seriously very few care about college basketball in Georgia. Football is king.
First actual thing I agree with you about.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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And Georgia is still worse than Alabama by that standard.

Whoa! Georgia had more lynchings than the Carolinas and Virginia combined (531 vs 361). Clearly, the Black population in Georgia was never the size of the Black population in all 3 of these states put together. Your attempt to sanitize the historical record and say "Well, Georgia was really more like North Carolina" is ridiculous.

All I'm saying is that Georgia and North Carolina are two different states politically. And politics is a lot more substantive than, say, ACC basketball. For all of the bluster on here about Georgia progressivism, the state's non-Hispanic white vote is more conservative than South Carolina's. That pretty much says it all right there.
Not totally surprising.

Hate crime laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Hate crime laws in the United States protect against hate crimes (also known as bias crimes) motivated by enmity or animus against a protected class. Although state laws vary, current statutes permit federal prosecution of hate crimes committed on the basis of a person's protected characteristics of race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability. The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)/FBI, as well as campus security authorities, are required to collect and publish hate crime statistics.

45 states and the District of Columbia have statutes criminalizing various types of bias-motivated violence or intimidation (the exceptions are Arkansas, Georgia, whose hate crime statute was struck down by the Georgia Supreme Court in 2004, Indiana, South Carolina, and Wyoming). Each of these statutes covers bias on the basis of race, religion, and ethnicity; 32 cover disability; 31 of them cover sexual orientation; 28 cover gender; 16 cover transgender/gender-identity; 13 cover age; 5 cover political affiliation. and 3 along with Washington, D.C. cover homelessness.
Here is the map if anyone is interested: Hate crime laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Legend on the bottom will depict what the colors mean.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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UGA probably won't even be in the SEC in the next few years. It will join up with the ACC or the Big Ten. UGA has more in common with Duke or Michigan than it does Auburn.
LOL.Im sorry but that is hilarious!!GA will leave the SEC when the school gets rid of its football proggram which is never!
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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Stop putting words in my mouth please.You know the history so why act like Im making it up?Alabama from Bimingham to Selma are known for what happened.

What incidents in GA of NC have incidents like those?
You were the one who said that Alabama was acting a fool during the civil rights era, which was true. But your making it seems like people in GA didn't do anything during that time, which is not true.

Ultimately I find the fact that we are discussing which state had it worse during that time, kinda sicking. Jim Crow was bad no matter where you were in the South.
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