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View Poll Results: Georgia, more in common with Alabama or North Carolina?
Alabama 141 62.67%
North Carolina 84 37.33%
Voters: 225. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2015, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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IMHO, people who think Georgia has more in common with NC than AL have spent most of their time in the Atlanta area and North Georgia and are clueless about the rest of the state.
Or perhaps they are looking at things like population, GDP, growth rate, typical new south states, business-oriented, great universities....
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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So.....Can any of these 87 people who voted for Alabama actually explain how Georgia is more similar to Alabama than NC?
Some already did.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Still not buying your lynching to voting correlation.
You don't have to "buy" it. Louisiana (along with East Texas), Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia had the most lynchings of African Americans during the 20th Century. *Coincidentally* White voters in these states also had the least support for the Democratic presidential candidate in both 2008 and 2012. Your response to this has been to scratch your head and say "Gee willikers, I can't think of a single gee golly reason why that might be the case." Laughable.

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Your view of social attitudes within the South comes across as very myopic.
In the Annenberg National Election Survey, Georgia voters registered as the most conservative voters on economic issues. On social issues, Georgia voters were slightly less conservative than SC voters and AL voters overall. As you can see from the graph below, Georgia lines up better with both AL and SC ideologically than it does with NC, which is beginning to resemble Missouri or Ohio a bit more in terms of its economic and social ideology.

Ranking states by the liberalism/conservatism of their voters - Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Your basically ignoring the minority population, like blacks, asians, Hispanic has no voice in the culture of the state. White non Hispanics only make 54.8 of Georgia. So I guess your ignoring 45.2% of the state I guess they don't exist. Hispanic 9.2 is not only larger than MS 1.1, AL 2%... but larger but comparable to NC 8.9% comparable. GA hispanic population is higher than all Midwestern states. Georgia has one of the growing Asian and latino population growth. But guess non of that matter because you only care to extame the non Hispanic white vote as if non Hispanic white if solo factor determining the state culture and the 45% Minority population doesn't exist.
Georgia is still one of the most conservative states in the Union despite the transplants, the Blacks, the Hispanics, etc. There are so many conservatives there that they easily overwhelm the non-Hispanic White liberal/moderate and minority vote. That's largely because Georgia is rabidly Republican and conservative outside of its urban areas and to a greater degree than you probably realize.
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You don't have to "buy" it. Louisiana (along with East Texas), Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia had the most lynchings of African Americans during the 20th Century. *Coincidentally* White voters in these states also had the least support for the Democratic presidential candidate in both 2008 and 2012. Your response to this has been to scratch your head and say "Gee willikers, I can't think of a single gee golly reason why that might be the case." Laughable.



In the Annenberg National Election Survey, Georgia voters registered as the most conservative voters on economic issues. On social issues, Georgia voters were slightly less conservative than SC voters and AL voters overall. As you can see from the graph below, Georgia lines up better with both AL and SC ideologically than it does with NC, which is beginning to resemble Missouri or Ohio a bit more in terms of its economic and social ideology.

Ranking states by the liberalism/conservatism of their voters - Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science
Are you seriously suggesting that white voters in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia, who did not vote for Obama are racists?
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Just so we're clear. Are you seriously suggesting that white voters in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia, who did not vote for Obama are racists? Are you correlating people with economically conservative viewpoints as being racist?
I didn't say anything about racism. I said that the states with the weakest non-Hispanic White support for Obama were *coincidentally* the states that had the most African American lynchings. Now do I think there's some connection there? Hell f****** yeah! LOL.
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Closer than you think!
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Some already did.
I mainly seen politics and lynching arguments..

I really didn't see too much factual information other than the typical "deep south states" comment.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:15 AM
 
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I mainly seen politics and lynching arguments..

I really didn't see too much factual information other than the typical "deep south states" comment.
Geography, college football, Civil Rights history, similar histories for their largest cities, etc. were some of the other points mentioned.

I can see it going either way in this discussion honestly.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I mainly seen politics and lynching arguments..

I really didn't see too much factual information other than the typical "deep south states" comment.
Why wouldn't politics matter? If you look at any other thread, people will be quick to jump and say "liberal" when comparing a place to, say, New York or Massachusetts. Why would it have so little significance here?

And honestly, what is going to be a more material difference in the lives of the average person: (a) the demographics and/or overall political ideology of a state or (b) the fact that two states have state flagship schools in the same conference? Some differences and similarities are more important than others.
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Old 04-02-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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IMHO, people who think Georgia has more in common with NC than AL have spent most of their time in the Atlanta area and North Georgia and are clueless about the rest of the state.
The people who think Georgia has more in common with AL have spent most of their time outside Atlanta on Georgia interstates and are clueless about the rest of the state.


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So.....Can any of these 87 people who voted for Alabama actually explain how Georgia is more similar to Alabama than NC?
Stereotypes...
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