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View Poll Results: What city is most poised to become another powerhouse of the South
Richmond, Va 27 9.96%
New Orleans, LA 24 8.86%
Nashville, TN 107 39.48%
Jacksonville, FL 14 5.17%
Louisville, KY 10 3.69%
Raleigh, NC 71 26.20%
Birmingham, AL 16 5.90%
Memphis, TN 2 0.74%
Voters: 271. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-30-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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northwestward? happy? although i guess if it really got big enough it could expand into the DelMarVa
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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That doesn't happen by fiat; if the two regions meet the commuter threshold for connectivity, they will become a CSA but I doubt that happens anytime soon at all.
New Kent County now has 50/50 commute between Richmond MSA and VA Beach MSA (Hampton Roads) , thats pretty darn close to forming a CSA, the suits in Richmond and Norfolk are well aware of the statistics and have already begun the due diligence if you will.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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How would it be apart of the bosh-wash corridor? I doubt that will ever happen especially in our lifetime.
Read it again dude and process it, why do we continually go down this path...All your ? will be answered if you READ IT.....
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Old 04-30-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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New Kent County now has 50/50 commute between Richmond MSA and VA Beach MSA (Hampton Roads) , thats pretty darn close to forming a CSA, the suits in Richmond and Norfolk are well aware of the statistics and have already begun the due diligence if you will.
To do what? Encourage New Kent County officials to clear land for tons of cookie-cutter subdivisions and strip malls to hasten the formation of a low-density CSA that would only have meaning on paper?
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:33 AM
 
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Calm down, just stating facts not raping the land.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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Calm down, just stating facts not raping the land.
I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense to try and force the creation of a CSA.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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To do what? Encourage New Kent County officials to clear land for tons of cookie-cutter subdivisions and strip malls to hasten the formation of a low-density CSA that would only have meaning on paper?
Essentially yes, but not exactly that. They've actually been on this since '06 and the plan has been to encourage transportation projects and infrastructure that would stimulate these subdivisions and strip malls you speak of LOL. Honestly, I'm a fan of smart growth, but combining the Richmond and Hampton Roads would be immensely helpful in terms of resources, attracting a major sports franchise, and overall notoriety. Dream of mega-region back on the table | Inside Business and haha again this year Peninsula Executive Leadership Forum hears vision of mega-region . And this isn't a joke, these business leaders are legitimately trying to accomplish this, coining regional names, a regional web site and all. I'm not sure whether to laugh or what, but it does surprise me that even with all there is between Richmond and Hampton Roads, it would still only represent the 16th largest region in the country - about the size of Portland, Cleveland, Denver, etc.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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Essentially yes, but not exactly that. They've actually been on this since '06 and the plan has been to encourage transportation projects and infrastructure that would stimulate these subdivisions and strip malls you speak of LOL. Honestly, I'm a fan of smart growth, but combining the Richmond and Hampton Roads would be immensely helpful in terms of resources, attracting a major sports franchise, and overall notoriety. Dream of mega-region back on the table | Inside Business and haha again this year Peninsula Executive Leadership Forum hears vision of mega-region . And this isn't a joke, these business leaders are legitimately trying to accomplish this, coining regional names, a regional web site and all. I'm not sure whether to laugh or what, but it does surprise me that even with all there is between Richmond and Hampton Roads, it would still only represent the 16th largest region in the country - about the size of Portland, Cleveland, Denver, etc.
If it has to be forced, then it's not really a "thing" and the only change would be on paper. The dynamic would still be much different than, say, the NC Triangle or even Washington-Baltimore. If a big economic development project were to land in Williamsburg (which I could envision residents potentially fighting tooth and nail), I can see that being a game-changer but trying to masterplan the creation of a CSA seems rather shortsighted IMO.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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If it has to be forced, then it's not really a "thing" and the only change would be on paper. The dynamic would still be much different than, say, the NC Triangle or even Washington-Baltimore. If a big economic development project were to land in Williamsburg (which I could envision residents potentially fighting tooth and nail), I can see that being a game-changer but trying to masterplan the creation of a CSA seems rather shortsighted IMO.
I definitely agree organic growth is best. And I'd worry that a huge csa like that would dilute the great characteristics each area has on its own. At the same time, like Poquoson7 was saying, the growth does seem to happening even without the help of some ambitious business advocates. Time will tell whether it will all come together.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:44 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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If it has to be forced, then it's not really a "thing" and the only change would be on paper. The dynamic would still be much different than, say, the NC Triangle or even Washington-Baltimore. If a big economic development project were to land in Williamsburg (which I could envision residents potentially fighting tooth and nail), I can see that being a game-changer but trying to masterplan the creation of a CSA seems rather shortsighted IMO.
I would think that Richmond would want nothing to do with that a giant CSA with VA Beach. If they did combine, where does Richmond's pride go? They'd become statistically a part of a giant sprawling metro and could lose some urban credibility. I understand the "cred" and visibility an inflated/manufactured CSA population can provide but is it worth it to all parties? I don't think so.

As for NC's Triangle, I expect it will one day be reunited into a singular MSA like it was before it was split it in two pieces. I can tell the folks in both Richmond and Tidewater that a CSA doesn't really give a metro the visibility that they think it will bring. The Triangle's CSA is nearing 2.1 million and it's hardly even recognized as being that size despite the fact that its two core cities share a border, it truly functions as one metro and its relationship isn't manufactured or forced.

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