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These two really surprised me. I would have bet serious money that more Seattleites and Portlanders would head to SF over LA.
No surprise that NYC appears on every list but that LA also does is totally unexpected. Especially since the data are from 2010-2011, when LA's unemployment numbers were still very high.
I thought SF, DC and the Texas cities would appear on many more lists. SF-Bay Area because of the massive tech sector and its high desirability; DC as a recession-proof employment center; Texas for its hot job market and low cost of living.
I haven't looked at the source pdf, but does anyone know?
Phoenix is clearly a major migration target. So, what are the top destinations for outbound Phoenicians?
He literally did it by county. Of course LA County would be on many people's list: LA County has 10 million people and covers a lot more land than SF County, that has 800,000 and only 46 square miles, or New York County that is literally JUST Manhattan (1.6 million people in 33 square miles).
That's pretty lazy. When I have time, which isn't now, I'll do the metro to metro calculations. It'll be a lot of work so maybe someone can give a head start.
LA area might be the easiest to start since it's LA-OC (for MSA), and LA, OC, Ventura, San Bernardino and Riverside county (for CSA)
He literally did it by county. Of course LA County would be on many people's list: LA County has 10 million people and covers a lot more land than SF County, that has 800,000 and only 46 square miles, or New York County that is literally JUST Manhattan (1.6 million people in 33 square miles).
That's pretty lazy. When I have time, which isn't now, I'll do the metro to metro calculations. It'll be a lot of work so maybe someone can give a head start.
LA area might be the easiest to start since it's LA-OC (for MSA), and LA, OC, Ventura, San Bernardino and Riverside county (for CSA)
It is! If it was summer break, I'd be more than happy to (over like a week period). Not all counties are created equally, which is why it's misleading to calculate things this way.
New Yorkers fleeing cold weather typically are going to warm destinations in the SE U.S., especially FL. CA is too far and too expensive, and not that warm, if your primary motivation is warm weather. Florida is hotter, cheaper and closer.
I thought Atlanta would be higher on the Miami list. It seems like NYC's diversity of personalities reflects in the diverse array of cities New Yorkers migrate to. None of the top 5 cities on NYC's list, favor each other(FTL doesn't count).
Why do you think lots of cities are "flooded with New Yorkers", while NYC is still growing by a lot in absolute numbers? NYC is flooded by people from other parts of the country as well.
New York City 1. Los Angeles
2. Philadelphia
3. Miami
4. Ft. Lauderdale
5. San Francisco
LA feels like it's inundated with New Yorkers. Feelings confirmed; but why are they coming here vs other large cities like Chicago?
Seattle
1. Los Angeles
2. New York City
3. Portland
4. San Francisco
5. San Diego
Portland
1. Seattle
2. Los Angeles
3. New York City
4. San Francisco
5. Phoenix
These two really surprised me. I would have bet serious money that more Seattleites and Portlanders would head to SF over LA.
No surprise that NYC appears on every list but that LA also does is totally unexpected. Especially since the data are from 2010-2011, when LA's unemployment numbers were still very high.
I thought SF, DC and the Texas cities would appear on many more lists. SF-Bay Area because of the massive tech sector and its high desirability; DC as a recession-proof employment center; Texas for its hot job market and low cost of living.
I haven't looked at the source pdf, but does anyone know?
Phoenix is clearly a major migration target. So, what are the top destinations for outbound Phoenicians?
Just a personal observation but when I lived in Portland the majority of people I knew who decided to relocate moved to LA. After that the relocaters went from Portland to Texas and Arizona. I knew a few New Yorkers who returned to NYC because they missed it. I don't think I knew a single person in the thirty odd years I lived in Portland who ever moved to SF.
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