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Old 04-15-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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Did you not see me say Brooklyn/Manhattan? Can you read?
They are already included, do you know what it means to expand to 500 sq miles? What neighborhoods did you think they did, Staten Island?

For your sake, i hope you're beautiful because intelligence is not shining right now.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: The City
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well West Rittenhouse Sq got close

Walk 99 (to me better walking than 15th and Market but who knows)
Transit 100
Bike 99

https://www.walkscore.com/score/217....lphia-pa-19103
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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They are already included, do you know what it means to expand to 500 sq miles? What neighborhoods did you think they did, Staten Island?

For your sake, i hope you're beautiful because intelligence is not shining right now.
You're intellegence hasn't shined for awhile. I simply misread your comment but I'm quite attractive so thanks.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Would San Francisco or NYC have their walk scores at 500 sq miles? Nope, they'd decrease dramatically.
The point is that if you took the most densely populated 36 sq miles of CHI, SF, PHI, BOS, DC, LA, and probably SEA, they'd give you a significantly higher walk score than Miami's 76. Miami made the top 5 due to it's unusually small borders.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Walk score only gives cumulative scores based on city limits, which greatly benefits Miami, a city of less than 36 sq miles.
Yes, but as mentioned before (and as anyone who has ever been to Miami knows) even within those small boundaries Miami is not particularly walkable. Indeed, a closer look shows that Miami has just one neighborhood (Downtown -- population 13,700) that breaks a score of 90. DC on the other hand has over 130,000 people living in walkscores of 90+.

Clearly what keeps Miami's average so high is that it has a very low standard deviation of walkscores. A score of 76, while impressive perhaps for the US, is for practical purposes pretty mediocre, and that's exactly what Miami's urbanity is -- consistently mediocre.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: The City
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^^^

To the above I took a look at walk score neighborhoods for 3 cities

Walk score population living at 90 or above
Miami 13.7K
DC 137.9K
Philly 249.2K

Walk score above 76 (Miami Average)
Miami 131.6K
DC 282.8K
Philly 1,099.2K
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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imagine bike score would be a challenge - much of what can make an area this walkable and even transit friendly is probably going to have some impact on bikeability

just looked at 15th and Market in Center city

Walk 100
Transit 100
Bike 89 (they are supposed to put in a dedicated bike lane on JFK linking to many trails but doubt would make it a 100) I dont know if any core urban areas would ever get a 100 bike score to be honest


https://www.walkscore.com/score/mark...lphia-pa-19107

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Old 04-15-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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well West Rittenhouse Sq got close

Walk 99 (to me better walking than 15th and Market but who knows)
Transit 100
Bike 99

https://www.walkscore.com/score/217....lphia-pa-19103

Wow...that's amazing!
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Yes, but as mentioned before (and as anyone who has ever been to Miami knows) even within those small boundaries Miami is not particularly walkable. Indeed, a closer look shows that Miami has just one neighborhood (Downtown -- population 13,700) that breaks a score of 90. DC on the other hand has over 130,000 people living in walkscores of 90+.

Clearly what keeps Miami's average so high is that it has a very low standard deviation of walkscores. A score of 76, while impressive perhaps for the US, is for practical purposes pretty mediocre, and that's exactly what Miami's urbanity is -- consistently mediocre.
This makes sense to me - sort of like how a city like San Jose can be one of the densest in the country without having many actually-dense neighborhoods in the city. Everything is like 8k ppsm.

The neighborhoods in Central LA (using it as an example since I have the most experience with LA) with those scores in the 60-80 range are like Historic Filipinotown (part of Westlake) and Mid-City. While I considered living there the lack of walkability was a huge deterrent and I would probably be fairly car dependent.

Honestly anything lower than what I am currently living at (85) and I would not consider the neighborhood to be the kind of place you could go car-lite or car-free in. I currently don't have access to a car about 75% of the time, and anything lower than 80 would probably mean I would want to become a 2-car household.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: The City
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This makes sense to me - sort of like how a city like San Jose can be one of the densest in the country without having many actually-dense neighborhoods in the city. Everything is like 8k ppsm.

The neighborhoods in Central LA (using it as an example since I have the most experience with LA) with those scores in the 60-80 range are like Historic Filipinotown (part of Westlake) and Mid-City. While I considered living there the lack of walkability was a huge deterrent and I would probably be fairly car dependent.

Honestly anything lower than what I am currently living at (85) and I would not consider the neighborhood to be the kind of place you could go car-lite or car-free in. I currently don't have access to a car about 75% of the time, and anything lower than 80 would probably mean I would want to become a 2-car household.
agree thats the thing to me as well as most places below 85 or so are not all that walkable and probably meet some aspects but not all. Now that does not mean its bad on the whole as it may have a few key amenities walkable and some not as much so be a hybrid which can work well but likely not typically what you might consider a truly walkable lifestyle
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