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View Poll Results: Is Philadelphia more urban than Chicago?
More urban 46 24.60%
Less urban 100 53.48%
About the same/don't know/don't care 41 21.93%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-10-2015, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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I love visiting Philly, but honestly the row house neighborhoods are normally not my cup of tea. There's so much concrete and few trees or greenery. One thing I like about Chicago is that almost all street are tree lined and there's the little strip of green between the street and the sidewalk.

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.9...82.45,,0,-5.67
Beautiful street! The tree canopy in Philly could is a work-in-progress, but Center City (and environs) and parts of West Philly have some fantastic tree-lined streets. Here's an example: http://goo.gl/maps/hW4RN.
Not coincidentally, the areas with the best tree canopy tend to command the highest real estate prices.
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Old 04-10-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So does urban = density?? I love Philly, and regardless of the numbers, Philly definitely "feels" more dense than Chicago overall. So to go by density, I give it to Philly.

To me though, urban means skyscrapers, trains/subways, lively neighborhoods, street activity, etc. all taken in combination. It's hard for me to say one is more "urban" than the other, so I voted that they are the same. Bottom line is that they are both very urban. 2 of my favorites!!
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:38 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Having been to both cities (and lived in Chicago for a period), I would say Chicago. Not by much, but I give it the edge for being far larger overall and actually feeling like a much larger and bustling urban area.

Philly has the row homes and many more narrower streets that make it feel more dense at first glance, but Chicago just has much more people and activity on the streets, (in my opinion) a far better public transportation system, and a much bigger Downtown that spans further north and south with high-rises along the lake.

The many de-populated and spotty South Side (and West Side) neighborhoods bring it down a bit in urbanity, but Chicago's North Side is arguably the most urban area in the US outside of New York.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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CHICAGO maintained density with a complete alley system and tree lined neighborhoods with some green frontage and most having backyards. WITH MOSTLY SINGLES

Examples of Chicago's densest old neighborhoods.

Random Lincoln Park neighborhood

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9191...DCIUC962FA!2e0

Wrigleyville random neighborhood

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9482...x5jeYPxTPQ!2e0

Cottage homes Old Ukrainian Village 1900

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9013...JrcE5Ys_bQ!2e0

Random example Bungalow neighborhood 1920s 1930s

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9287...OLXCvbBcyA!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9379...JrxLeC2NfA!2e0

Yards example and back alleys for power lines and garages and garbage pick-up.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9519...7jzplHocNQ!2e0


PHILADELPHIA DID ROWS

Tight Rows

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9879...2lUu5waI_Q!2e0

Wider street rows

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9874...7xqWhCdEwg!2e0

Nice Philly rows

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9565...1YkOiZAitg!2e0


PHILLY OVERVIEW..CHICAGO OVERVIEW
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Old 04-12-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Argue all you want about density, but Philly is DEFINITELY more vibrant than Chicago, especially downtown.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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Argue all you want about density, but Philly is DEFINITELY more vibrant than Chicago, especially downtown.
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Old 04-12-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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PlanPhilly | DVRPC authorizes study for capping I-95, gets funding for bike trails from William Penn

This would be my dream project for Philly. You got admit it looks somewhat similar to Chicagos waterfront. Also all the towers going up along the other River is somewhat similar to the Chicago design. Outside of the Downtowns though, I am pretty sure Philly will always be more urban just because of the building style. Idk what Urban Praries are, but I do know that Urban Farming is definitely growing in popularity around here.
If Chicago STILL HAS THE EDGE OVER PHILLY FOR DENSITY.....DESPITE PHILLY HAVING SOOOOO MANY NARROW STREETS OF PLAIN ROWS WITH VERY LITTLE GREEN SPACE, OUTSIDE OF PARKS and more affluent or newer Rows.

Chicago did something right. It had TREE LINED NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.... NO EXAGERATION. Mostly singles, few Rows, some green frontage to actual front lawns, a full ALLEY SYSTEM Where power lines , garbage pick-up is .... and garages ....BUT ESPECIALLY, MOST HAVE BACK YARDS TOO. UNLIKE.....A LOT OF PHILLY.

Really... as for parts of the Southside Chicago. Where blight was worse? The city TORE DOWN. The Decay. Yes parts are RETURNING TO PRAIRIE. AWAITING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT NEW BETWEEN THE EXISTING OLDER. Unless the US goes into turmoil? I believe it will come.

It is GREAT PHILLY is improving its river front.

As for CHICAGO'S LAKEFRONT. City planners and STAUNCH FIGHTERS TO KEEP THE LAKEFRONT FROM INDUSTRY AND FOR THE PUBLIC USE. Were instrumental to keep the Lakefront full of BEACHES, PARKS AND HARBORS for public not private use and free of industry. Plus a REAL PLAN that has mostly happened into this.......

.....Streeterville..........Lincoln..... .....Downtown............Grant..........Millennium ....................Oak Street
....and Goldcoast..........Park...............Harbors..... .........Park...............Park.................. .Beach Downtown⤵
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Argue all you want about density, but Philly is DEFINITELY more vibrant than Chicago, especially downtown.
Lol ok
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Lol ok
Yeah that statement he made was a little outlandish but I think most would agree that Philly is the more walkable city(especially at the core).
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yeah that statement he made was a little outlandish but I think most would agree that Philly is the more walkable city(especially at the core).
Hmm, maybe true, mostly because of Philadelphia east coast density. Its been a while since I been there.
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