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Old 04-13-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by botticelli View Post
Most states don't have a second city.

Yes, California has San Francisco and Texas has Dallas, but what do Illinois an New York have? Aurora and Buffalo? LOL
Actually most states do have a second city; having one city almost completely dominate the state isn't very common.

 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Dallas is Texas' SECOND city? Really? I know Austin is "hot and trendy" right now, San Antonio is the most tourist friendly, and Houston is the biggest, but Dallas is still the first city that comes to mind for most people all over the world when they think of Texas...
That has more to do with the fact that, in the media, Dallas embodies more of the stereotypical images applied to Texas. That doesn't mean it's the first city.

Media popularity is only one factor. It isn't the deciding the factor. You can't just overlook the numerous other ways in which Houston plays its role as Texas' primary metropolis.

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Old 04-13-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Springs
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I can remember in the early '60s, Shreveport used to be considered the "second city" of Louisiana. My father's hometown was Baton Rouge, and he always told me one day BR would overtake it. It did it appears.

In CO, Pueblo was always the "second city". In the '70s, the Springs passed it and never looked back. It's now #9 and is pretty much the same size it was then.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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I lived in Houston, and I say Dallas, or more specifically the metroplex.

One way you can tell the 'first city' is by the airport. The airport in Dallas is a lot newer, shinier, and services way more people than IAH. It's clear where the energy is in Texas.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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I lived in Houston, and I say Dallas, or more specifically the metroplex.

One way you can tell the 'first city' is by the airport. The airport in Dallas is a lot newer, shinier, and services way more people than IAH. It's clear where the energy is in Texas.
Seems like the energy is in both the Metroplex and Houston. Whichever (Houston or Dallas) one considers the first city, the other is very close behind.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 11:56 AM
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Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I lived in Houston, and I say Dallas, or more specifically the metroplex.

One way you can tell the 'first city' is by the airport. The airport in Dallas is a lot newer, shinier, and services way more people than IAH. It's clear where the energy is in Texas.
Most of those at DFW regional are just passing through on connector flights which makes it seem they are visiting DFW, but Houston is far and away the most visited city in Texas, so those people you see at IAH are actually headed to and from Houston..I wont mention that IAH has more international traffic and that Houston is about to have 2 International airports. Then there is the Port of Houston and all the international tonnage going in and out of there and the cruise ships ect, ect, ect.....
 
Old 04-13-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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I'd like to know your logic behind some of these. If Oklahoma City is Oklahoma's SECOND city, Then you must be assuming that Tulsa would be it's first. I don't know another soul on here that would carry that same logic.
Maybe not, but those who are familiar with both cities would agree with me. Tulsa is the entertainment, cultural, live music, nightlife, and shopping capital of Oklahoma and it isn't even close. That's not to say Tulsa is a world class city or anything but it runs circles around OKC. About the only thing OKC has going for it is the basketball team.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I don't think it's that difficult. Newark is number one due to its population and cultural relevance (Devils play there, Nets used to not so long ago, concerts are held at the Pru Center, college basketball teams play there, too), and also it's a transit hub. Airport, NJT, PATH, Amtrak. JC is great for PATH service and the tunnel but nothing beats Newark's transit options, IMO. I know people have a bad view of Newark, and it's mostly deserved, but it's still our first city, and JC is a close second. It may surpass Newark, but without having the cultural aspects that Newark has, I'm not sure if it truly can. And it might be hard for JC to get a sports team and the like considering it's already part of the NYC metro area and right across the river. It's easier for Newark to stand out a bit more than JC because at least it's like 10 miles inland rather than right there and was a much more important city years ago, before NYC became the true cultural powerhouse it is today, so at least it has that recognition. I doubt a venue like the Prudential Center would work in JC, and I doubt a sports team or anything similar will ever go there. I think JC will rise in popularity due to its location, and I think it will become more of a cool place to live and hang out in, more than anything. Jersey City has a better skyline, though, IMO - which has only been built up in the last decade or so so it's rather new. Back in the 90s and early 2000s JC looked like nothing from across the river while Newark's had its little skyline for years.

AC I guess is third. But a more distant third. Atlantic City is really on a downswing. High crime, many casinos are closing which means a loss of jobs for the area, making it a more depressed area and lacking a bit in cultural importance. AC has a nice skyline, IMO, and the boardwalk is still a classic but it needs to be saved before it can again become what it once was. Newark and JC at least are doing well, AC is just getting worse. I don't expect people not from NJ to know this though, which partly explains why so many are choosing Atlantic City.
You make a lot of good points...
 
Old 04-13-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Time to let Texas cities highjack thread.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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I lived in Houston, and I say Dallas, or more specifically the metroplex.

One way you can tell the 'first city' is by the airport. The airport in Dallas is a lot newer, shinier, and services way more people than IAH. It's clear where the energy is in Texas.
Houston and Dallas are neck and neck for spokesman of Texas. But I would give slight edge to Houston.
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