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Old 04-10-2015, 10:21 PM
 
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Washington is kind of funny. It's technically Spokane in terms of population, but economically, Tacoma and even Bellevue have more clout. I'd say it's Tacoma v. Bellevue. In 10 or so years, Bellevue's going to be far more developed than either Tacoma or Spokane. As it is, Bellevue is attracting many more white collar jobs.
Yes, agreed. I was wondering given the very broad definition that the OP given for the second city, how that it'd be harder to define WA Second city. Bellevue already had overtaken the #2 urban spot (which was Tacoma's for a long time) and has an extremely healthy economic hub with lots of HQs set there (while Tacoma is recovering still).

I don't really get the Olympia votes though. In that sense, would almost all the states's capitol be the second city?

 
Old 04-10-2015, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Philly
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For New Jersey, I view the second city as Camden.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Alabama-Mobile
Alaska-Juneau
Arizona-Tucson
Arkansas-Fayetteville
California-San Francisco
Colorado-Colorado Springs
Connecticut-New Haven
Delaware-Dover
Florida-Tampa
Georgia-Savannah
Hawaii-Hilo
Idaho-Pocatello
Illinois-Springfield
Indiana-Fort Wayne
Iowa-Cedar Rapids
Kansas-Kansas City
Kentucky-Lexington
Louisiana-Baton Rouge
Maine-Bangor
Maryland-Annapolis
Massachusetts-Springfield
Michigan-Grand Rapids
Minnesota-St. Paul
Mississippi-Biloxi
Missouri-Kansas City
Montana-Missoula
Nebraska-Lincoln
Nevada-Reno
New Hampshire-Concord
New Jersey-Atlantic City
New Mexico-Santa Fe
New York-Buffalo
North Carolina-Raleigh
North Dakota-Bismarck
Ohio-Cincinnati
Oklahoma-Tulsa
Oregon-Eugene
Pennsylvania-Pittsburgh
Rhode Island-Warwick
South Carolina-Columbia
South Dakota-Rapid City
Tennessee-Memphis
Texas-Houston
Utah-Provo
Vermont-Montpelier
Virginia-Richmond
Washington-Spokane
West Virginia-Huntington
Wisconsin-Madison
Wyoming-Casper
 
Old 04-10-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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For New Jersey, I view the second city as Camden.
You're joking, right?
 
Old 04-10-2015, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Alabama-Mobile
Alaska-Juneau
Arizona-Tucson
Arkansas-Fayetteville
California-San Francisco
Colorado-Colorado Springs
Connecticut-New Haven
Delaware-Dover
Florida-Tampa
Georgia-Savannah
Hawaii-Hilo
Idaho-Pocatello
Illinois-Springfield
Indiana-Fort Wayne
Iowa-Cedar Rapids
Kansas-Kansas City
Kentucky-Lexington
Louisiana-Baton Rouge
Maine-Bangor
Maryland-Annapolis
Massachusetts-Springfield
Michigan-Grand Rapids
Minnesota-St. Paul
Mississippi-Biloxi
Missouri-Kansas City
Montana-Missoula
Nebraska-Lincoln
Nevada-Reno
New Hampshire-Concord
New Jersey-Atlantic City
New Mexico-Santa Fe
New York-Buffalo
North Carolina-Raleigh
North Dakota-Bismarck
Ohio-Cincinnati
Oklahoma-Tulsa
Oregon-Eugene
Pennsylvania-Pittsburgh
Rhode Island-Warwick
South Carolina-Columbia
South Dakota-Rapid City
Tennessee-Memphis
Texas-Houston
Utah-Provo
Vermont-Montpelier
Virginia-Richmond
Washington-Spokane
West Virginia-Huntington
Wisconsin-Madison
Wyoming-Casper
What made you pick Fort Wayne?
 
Old 04-11-2015, 04:17 AM
 
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Alabama Montgomery
Alaska Fairbanks
Arizona Tucson
Arkansas NW Ark
California San Francisco
Colorado Colorado Springs
Connecticut A couple after Hartford tie
Delaware No distinct city after Wilmington
Florida Tampa
Georgia Savannah
Hawaii Do not know
Idaho CDL
Illinois Peoria
Indiana Fort Wayne, As a person who drives through South Bend often Fort Wayne just feels bigger. Although I suppose with ND South Bend gets more attention.
Iowa Cedar Rapids
Kansas Topeka
Kentucky Lexington
Louisiana Baton Rouge
Maine After Portland? Bangor maybe?
Maryland DC Burbs do they count?
Massachusetts Springfield
Michigan Detroit (After Detroits Suburbs) For the purpose of this poll i'll say Grand Rapids since it's the Academic answer.
Minnesota Duluth
Mississippi unsure
Missouri Kansas City
Montana Unsure after Billings
Nebraska Lincoln
Nevada Reno
New Hampshire Unsure
New Jersey Seems like all Jersey cities have turned into suburbs for either NYC or Philly, is there truly a first city?
New Mexico Los Cruces
New York Buffalo
North Carolina Raleigh-Durham
North Dakota Grand Forks
Ohio Cincinatti
Oklahoma Tulsa
Oregon Salem
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh
Rhode Island unsure if there truly is one
South Carolina I dont know if Charleston or Columbia goes first, a lot of South Carolina cities seem equal I dont know if there is a first city.
South Dakota Unsure
Tennessee I guess it would be Memphis, since Nashville has surged passed it in the last 40 years. Still seems vague to me.
Texas Dallas and Houston seem equal to me. San Antonio seems to have second city syndrome.
Utah No clear winner. I guess St. George although when I was there I didn't have much of a city Identity.
Vermont Is there truly a first city?
Virginia Do the DC burbs count? Hampton Roads has grown bigger than Richmond, but Richmond seems to have the most Virginian Identiy. What would you choose? No Clear first city IMO.
Washington Spokane since Tacoma and Others are enveloped in Metro Seattle.
West Virginia Huntington?
Wisconsin Madison
Wyoming Which is the first city? Cheyenne because it's the seat of gov't?
 
Old 04-11-2015, 04:20 AM
 
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For Texas, Houston seems like a second city to the Dallas-Forth Worth metroplex. But if you want to call those 'equal' then Austin. San Antonio is more like a third city.

For Michigan, if you want to separate Ann Arbor from Detroit and suburbs, then it's definitely Ann Arbor. If not, then Grand Rapids I guess. Though Lansing/East Lansing has some good arguments.

For California, it's San Francisco/Bay Area.

For Florida, it's Orlando.

For Georgia, it's Savannah.
 
Old 04-11-2015, 04:36 AM
 
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For Texas, Houston seems like a second city to the Dallas-Forth Worth metroplex. But if you want to call those 'equal' then Austin. San Antonio is more like a third city.

For Michigan, if you want to separate Ann Arbor from Detroit and suburbs, then it's definitely Ann Arbor. If not, then Grand Rapids I guess. Though Lansing/East Lansing has some good arguments.

For California, it's San Francisco/Bay Area.

For Florida, it's Orlando.

For Georgia, it's Savannah.
Why would you put Ann Arbor over Grand Rapids it's almost half the size and close to 1/3rd the size as a metro area? Is it due to the University bringing more attention?

As a stand alone city I could see it 3rd, possibly 4th after Lansing if you go by metro size.
 
Old 04-11-2015, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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Why would you put Ann Arbor over Grand Rapids it's almost half the size and close to 1/3rd the size as a metro area? Is it due to the University bringing more attention?

As a stand alone city I could see it 3rd, possibly 4th after Lansing if you go by metro size.
Yes, because of UMich (the most famous university of Michigan), it's probably the second most known city in Michigan outside of Detroit.
 
Old 04-11-2015, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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All of these people picking Richmond as Virginia's SECOND city! The vast majority of Virginians will tell you Richmond is one. Norfolk is probably two, although Alexandria gives it a good run for that spot....

Buffalo is only second to outsiders, far as NY is concerned. Natives and residents can argue Rochester or Albany for number two with validity...

I think the real answers are in the State forums. If we asked everyone to rank the cities in their own states there, we'd see how natives view without outside perception...
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