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Atlanta and Raleigh, once their growth spurts catch up with them and then the realities of even higher crime, higher costs, higher taxes, etc. increase.
Growth spurt in Atlanta? It's been "spurting" since 1870 - I'm not sure how long a city must grow by leaps and bounds to outgrow the growth spurt label, but I think Atlanta is about there...
Atlanta and Raleigh, once their growth spurts catch up with them and then the realities of even higher crime, higher costs, higher taxes, etc. increase.
Atlanta and Raleigh, once their growth spurts catch up with them and then the realities of even higher crime, higher costs, higher taxes, etc. increase.
where would the raddomly high cost and taxes come from? of course you would want this. I should start counting the negative stuff you say about the same cities.
Atlanta and Raleigh, once their growth spurts catch up with them and then the realities of even higher crime, higher costs, higher taxes, etc. increase.
Atlanta has been dealing with very high crime for years, before it hit its growth spurt. In fact, before Atlanta got as big as it is now, it was one of the murder capitals of the USA. Violent crime, though still a serious problem in Atlanta, is on the decline.
Detroit, Flint, Gary, and much of upstate New York, Ohio outside of Columbus and Cincinnati, and Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are still in fairly dire straits and have yet to hit the rebound curve.
Actually there are a number of precolumbian sites that are abandoned, intresting is that many happened around the year 1400 so outside disease is very unlikely due to no known contact. (barring something like someone from Greenland or Iceland during the black death drifted over and accidently spreading it) A big reason for the 1400 issue was climate change and people didn't adapt or related political collapse.
The most likely candidates for cities falling flat for now lies in the rust belt. (though can 40 years of decline continue?) Likely we well see this decade a lot of changes to what cities are booming and busting so we could be very wrong in the end.
Actually Atlanta's water situation does have a severe issue. The Chatahooche dispute still is not resolved between GA,AL,and FL after 2 decades. A court order was issued basically telling the Atlanta area they could only withdraw water at levels done in the 1970's which is a death sentance since population has tripled since then. (though it could be mitigated by efficancy and that average household water use is lower now than then) Another thing is that state law prohibits water transported between river basins plus the Atlanta area has such a small upstream area to collect water.
A solution I had for it is since some judge ruled that most of the metro area can't take water from Lake Lanier since when it was built it was not stated to be a source of drinking water, only flood control and power. Just do the minimal amount of work to the dam that defines it as a rebuild. (such concepts are done in other places for legal reasons)
Atlanta and Raleigh, once their growth spurts catch up with them and then the realities of even higher crime, higher costs, higher taxes, etc. increase.
Atlanta is going to fall anywhere. In fact, Atlanta benefits from being the only major city in a 200-300 mile radious from every direction which gives it an advantage over cities like Philadelphia that have to compete with NYC and DC for jobs to relocate there and such.
Hard to see how you came up with Atlanta and I'm not too familiar with Raleigh but I never anyone say that Raleigh will fall because higher cost, higher taxes, and higher crime.
Actually i would beg to differ, Philly is growing overall, even within the city limits, the downtown is one of the best in the country (3rd most residents and growing) and will continue to be. It is alos not really a blue collar town, many differnt types of industry, pharmaceuticals, Finance, insurance, and Law.
I ask people all the time who make statements about Philly, have you ever been. Honestly Philly is more vibrant than other other city except NYC (downtown vibrnacy-wise) and on par with San Fran, Boston or DC.
Yes there are warts, but the city is very compact and already the metros of Philly and NYC overlap, the cosest point of the city limit of Philly and NYC is 46 miles, that is not considering the metro areas which actually have shared counties. Philly to me also feels like the largest CITY (meaning urban feel) outside of NYC or Chicago, maybe San Fran.
Just curious why it gets the wrap. Yes it is not going to grow at the rate of other areas and never will, there just isnt enough room.
I agree. I love Philly. IMO I'd put DC, SF, Boston still right there for feeling like a large city though. Maybe not in size, but density and vibrancy I would. I like DC better, but have actually been debating moving to Philly due to the cheaper cost of living and commuting to DC for work. I'm a fireman so I only work 8 days/month and with my 24 hours shifts I don't hit traffic durring the commutes. The three things holding me back are working overtime shifts, being able to hang out with my friends and do other dept things on off days, and the fact that I won't save much more money due to the has I'll be using.
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I guess if I were to pick a large city to decline not unlike the Rust Belt cities have, I'd choose Las Vegas. Its draw as a place to gamble is losing its edge since nearly every city in the country now has a casino within a 50 mile radius of it and many have downtown or urban casinos. Also, living in the desert to me is about as stupid as living on top of a mountain, and I think that concept will catch on once people realize just how deserted the environment they live in really is.
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