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One note on the public transit front: DC and Atlanta have heavy rail systems that are nearly the same age. DC's began operations on March 27, 1976 and Atlanta's on June 30, 1979. Much of the underground portion for both systems (I'm assuming this is true for Atlanta as well) was built using tunnel-boring methods, resulting in deep, cavernous stations such as the one below.
The Washington Metro is more similar to MARTA than it is to the NY Subway. Both DC and ATL have "newish" systems whereas the systems in NYC (and Boston and Philly) feel older and grimier.
"DC is an alpha world class city. What are you blabbering about? It's not in the same tier with Atlanta, Houston and definitely not Dallas.... smh."
That's your original post on the matter. The one that started it all. Where does the word "opinion" appear? For that matter, where do the words, "I think" even come into play?
When you're discussing something that is statistically measurable AND you fail to frame your thoughts as personal opinion AND you then post statistical information, nobody has any reason to think that you're just offering up an opinion.
Also, please stop with the name calling. "Tick," etc. It's childish and it's beneath you. I've read good posts from you on other threads. I know you're better than this.
It came out wrong great. I already said that many many post ago, now I'm making it clear what I meant. I don't know why you're still on that when I've already addressed it.
Also if you've seen my previous post on ither threads then you would know I have history with Bajan. Also you would know why I said it and I have every right too.
But he never specified JUST structurally.In which case D.C. does have similarities that narrow it down somewhat.You and others are so focused on density and the built environment whereas it should not be because it should not even have to be debated that obviously Atlanta and DC share very little in its built environment and still no one has said anything to suggest otherwise.
But the problem is, that is what people are debating here. The other problem seems to be was this thread about D.C. or it's Virginia and Maryland suburbs which people also seem to be debating. SMH....you have to be clear or you get the mess that is happening here with nobody talking about the same topic. Until the criteria is narrowed, this thread will go nowhere. We have people talking about everything from subways, to houses, to people, to regional culture and on top of all that, we don't know whether it's for D.C. or the Maryland and Virginia suburbs which have nothing in common with D.C. proper.
DC and Atlanta are also very different from NYC insofar as having much younger suburbs. The % of suburban housing stock built prior to 1940 is significantly lower in both metros than it is in the NYC Tri-State.
New York - 18.9%
Philadelphia - 14.9%
Washington - 4.6%
Richmond - 4.1%
Atlanta - 2.0%
If you look at the housing stock specifically in Bergen and Westchester Counties, you'll find that very little housing stock has been built since 1990 to the present day (12.9%) with significantly more being built before 1940 (19.8%). This also holds true for Westchester (10.7% since 1990 and 32.3% before 1940). Dekalb and MoCo have much more housing built since 1990 (33.8% and 25.2%) and far less built before 1940 (4.5% and 4.7%). IMO, this gives the NYC suburbs a much different feel from the more modern suburbs of DC and Atlanta.
There's also the fact that NY/NJ/CT don't have strong-county government, which isn't the case in Maryland, Virginia and Georgia.
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Atlanta isn't in the same tier off my OPINION. Although my whole post and purpose of it was saying DC is an alpha world class city. I've made myself clear already why are you still riding my coat tail about it?
DC and Atlanta are also similar in how African Americans are largely on one side of the metro with Whites on the other. The only difference is that Atlanta has a North-South divide whereas DC Metro has a East-West divide. Both metros have an AA population that's mostly concentrated in low density suburban areas while in the NYC metro the AA population is decidely more urban.
Both metros have exploded in size since the 1970s/80s. Both have also greatly diversified since 1980.
Atlanta isn't in the same tier off my OPINION. Although my whole post and purpose of it was saying DC is an alpha world class city. I've made myself clear already why are you still riding my coat tail about it?
Im sorry but you were not clear,Im still confused by your statements and I assure you I do have the ability to understand more complex conversations.
I really wonder if Atlanta was more denser if it would be considered one of the greatest cities in the country on this forum.
Nope, because it's still in the south, and it doesn't get enough snow. It doesn't have enough Italians, you know, all the things that really matter.
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