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View Poll Results: What city/metro would you rather live in?
MSP 60 60.00%
PDX 40 40.00%
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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For me, I would rather live in Portland than Minneapolis--Portland just feels incredibly different than Minneapolis, in my experience. But the hipsters can make both insufferable, so there's at least one similarity
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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For me, I would rather live in Portland than Minneapolis--Portland just feels incredibly different than Minneapolis, in my experience. But the hipsters can make both insufferable, so there's at least one similarity
Minneapolis isn't any worse than Chicago in terms of hipsters....in fact Chicago may be worse, as the more transient city of the two. Do you feel suffocated by hipsters?
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Pound-for-pound I think Portland is one of the better cities in the country. It's quite a pleasant surprise because it offers way more than anyone would have thought possible before visiting. The area around it is quite beautiful, lots of nice trails around there and of course plenty to do outdoors.

80 miles from Downtown Portland is one of the most scenic stretches of coastline found anywhere in North America.
I'm starting to notice an agenda with your posts/threads.
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Old 05-02-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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You don't know what you're talking about.

One:
When we liberals talk about diversity, we mean all types of diversity. When we talk about race, we mean race.

Two:
I used city-data.com to make a list of all non-Hispanic white ancestries accounting for at least 1% of population of each city, and here's what I found:

Portland: 19% German, 12% Irish, 12% English, 5% Norwegian, 5% French, 4% Italian, 3% Swedish, 3% Scottish, 2% Scots-Irish, 2% Dutch, 2% Russian, 2% Polish, 1% Welsh, 1% Ukrainian, 1% Danish, 1% Swiss, 1% Czech, 1% Greek. 18 countries represented.

Minneapolis: 21% German, 11% Norwegian, 10% Irish, 8% Swedish, 6% English, 4% Polish, 3% French, 2 % Italian, 2% Scottish, 2% Czech, 1% Danish, 1% Dutch, 1% Russian, 1% Scotch-Irish, 1% French- Canadian, 1% Welsh, 1 % Arab. So, 17 countries represented.

Cincinnati: 20% German, 10% Irish, 5% English, 3% Italian, 2% French, 1% Scottish, 1% Polish, 1% Dutch, 1% Scots-Irish, 1% Russian. So, 10 countries represented.

Clearly, in terms of white people, BOTH Minneapolis and Portland are SIGNIFICANTLY more diverse than Cincinnati.

http://www.city-data.com/races/races...Minnesota.html
http://www.city-data.com/races/races...nati-Ohio.html
http://www.city-data.com/races/races...nd-Oregon.html

Great, but does it really matter what peoples ancestries are ?
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Minneapolis isn't any worse than Chicago in terms of hipsters....in fact Chicago may be worse, as the more transient city of the two. Do you feel suffocated by hipsters?
It was just a joke, but in my experience there's definitely a higher concentration of hipsters in both Portland and Mpls. I'm sure Chicago has way more hipsters than either, but then it's got a much larger population overall, so there's a dilution effect unless you are in particular areas of the city. In that case, it's waxed mustaches, mason jars, suspenders, and restaurants with ampersands in the names as far as the eye can see...
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Great, but does it really matter what peoples ancestries are ?
Aren't you the poster who has created numerous race-based threads? Are you interested in just race or ethnicity as well?
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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It was just a joke, but in my experience there's definitely a higher concentration of hipsters in both Portland and Mpls.
I noticed more hipsters in Minneapolis actually, but it only feels like part of the various groups while in Portland it feels like the city is more of this type of city. If that makes any sense.

@Dawn I did most of that stuff you're talking about when I went to visit. You can basically do all that same sort of stuff in Portland (albeit with slightly different influences). They have more dives. It's generally cheaper (a bar downtown has $1.75 beers and another near Burnside has $2 tall boys) too.

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Are strip clubs considered a good thing? I think they're repulsive and trashy.
In general no. Although going to a strip club in Portland is part of the culture and there's a large variety of things to do at them. You've got karaoke, trivia nights, vegan eats, places that are more like circus performers/athletic shows, places that are more like hanging out at a friend's place, and a lot of them play better music than many of the bars/clubs.

Going to a Portland strip club is an event. Going to one in another city is single minded in its attempt to arouse.

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LOL... Seattle's little brother lashing out at the Midwest
Actually for this match up I'd say Seattle and Minneapolis are more closely related than Seattle and Portland. Kind of like a long lost twin raised by a different set parents.

If you look at it from an overall amenities point of view Minneapolis is clearly the winner. But if you're looking at it from the ground level of a better day to day experience and an ease of living standpoint Portland is slightly better IMO. It's certainly not as lopsided as the poll would have you believe.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Great, but does it really matter what peoples ancestries are ?
Dude-- you were the one who made the random and wrong claim the Cincinnati was more diverse than Minneapolis in terms of white ansestory. Remember? So, yeah, as far as your argument (which my data proves wrong), ansestories matter.
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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If you look at it from an overall amenities point of view Minneapolis is clearly the winner. But if you're looking at it from the ground level of a better day to day experience and an ease of living standpoint Portland is slightly better IMO. It's certainly not as lopsided as the poll would have you believe.
Aside from the weather (even that is debatable) how is Portland easier living than Minneapolis? It's far more expensive and has a much worse economy.
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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From a people perspective -- definitely MSP. Also MSP is very bike friendly and has a strong local economy.

But the winters there are brutal. I'll take a cold rain over the tundra.
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