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View Poll Results: Your favorite of the three?
Atlanta 46 38.33%
Miami 31 25.83%
Mexico City 43 35.83%
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:09 PM
 
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Yeah, I've been hearing Miami should get Tokyo soon.

 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Why'd you put an asterisk next to Asia for Miami? Qatar is Asia, period.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Why'd you put an asterisk next to Asia for Miami? Qatar is Asia, period.
I know, I definitely recognize it as Asia but it is one of those areas of the world that people think is its very own continent (the Middle-East; which is just a subregion of Asia and not a continent of its own; Middle-East is also a subregion of parts of Europe and Africa as well).

To me, the Persian Gulf is Asia. We have only 7 continents (Africa, Asia, Oceania, North America, South America, Europe, Antarctica), and 6 inhabitable ones (all of the ones mentioned minus Antarctica).

I just did it to explain that we have it (we just recently got it in the last couple of years, so a lot of people don't/didn't know we had our first Asian destination), so there's no confusion later on.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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It does though. And by business, business is not just big companies. I work in real estate investment, the majority of our investors both individual and corporate are from Europe. Europe has been bringing money into Miami for years. Look up the banking connections. There is a reason all the major European Airlines bring in their top First Class products to Miami. Tourist don't fly first class, business travelers do.

And that is my point. I am not saying Miami is more globally connect in terms of regions that have decent ties to Miami compared to Atlanta. All I am saying is Miami has an actual impact on a fairly large region of the world outside the U.S. Atlanta can't say the same.

What is "just not correct at all" was your statement about international airlines. Now that was way off. Miami is a big tourism destination, but if you think business does not have a part in it as well, well that's just not right.

Again, I am not saying Atlanta is not well connected globally, and I AGREE Atlanta has more connections to places in different areas like Asia and Africa than Miami does. But Miami has a greater impact on international regions than Atlanta does. That's all I am saying, and you should agree, as you said it yourself, "de facto capital of Latin America".
Miami has a greater impact on one particular region however it is not as globally connected business wise.You cannot leave out Asia and Africa and act lke thats the world because its more connected to Europe.I never disagreed that Miami is not a much greater destination for international travel.
Thats why its economy is service industry heavy and lack a substantial high tech industry.

What product is Miami known for worldwide?
Atlanta?Coke,Music(hiphop)CNN.

Miami is a place for the business for a select region.Sure people from all over the world travel to Miami for vacation but other than real estate thats it on the global scale.

When the last time a decent sized European company moved its North American headquarters to Miami?
Atlanta?:
Mercedes Benz.
Novelis
Triumph Motorcycles
Porshe

The questions was asked which is more cosmopolitan?
So tell me how a city with only 70% of its students graduate(Atlanta 88%)
Miami has only 23% population with Bachelors or higher(Atl 46%)
Miami 29.9%poverty rate(Atl25%)
Miami per capita income $21,120(Atlanta $35,890)
Miami ranked 474 out of 478 cities from Smartest to dumbness

Miami Asian population of 1%(Atlanta 3.1%)

But the answer I keep getting is "Miami is the gateway to Latin America so it must be more cosmopolitan.

Miami is without a doubt more international but the poster I was replying to said Atlanta was not globally connected at all and that is a complete lie.

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Old 05-22-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Operational Commercial Airports:
- Atlanta: [1]
1) Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport

- Miami: [3]
1) Miami International Airport; 2) Fort Lauderdale International Airport; 3) Palm Beach International Airport

- Mexico City: [3]
1) Mexico City International Airport; 2) Licenciado Adolfo López Mateos International Airport; 3) Querétaro Intercontinental Airport

Service Continents [6 Maximum: North America, South America, Asia, Africa, Europe, Oceania]:
Atlanta: [5]
1) North America; 2) South America; 3) Europe; 4) Asia; 5) Africa

Miami: [4]
1) North America; 2) South America; 3) Europe; 4) Asia

* Asia by way to Doha, Qatar and Istanbul, Turkey. Only a matter of time until Miami gets Tokyo as well.

Mexico City: [4]
1) North America; 2) South America; 3) Europe; 4) Asia

Foreign Flag Carriers:
Atlanta: [8]
1) Air Canada; 2) Air France; 3) British Airways; 4) KLM; 5) Korean Air; 6) Lufthansa; 7) Qatar Airways; 8) Virgin Atlantic.

Miami: [58]
1) Air Canada; 2) Bahamasair; 3) Air Transat; 4) Avianca; 5) Azul Brazilian Airlines; 6) CanJet; 7) Caribbean Airlines; 8) Condor; 9) Copa Airlines; 10) IBC Airways; 11) Norwegian Air Shuttle; 12) SkyBahamas Airlines; 13) Sunwing Airlines; 14) TAME; 15) Volaris; 16) WestJet; 17) Aeroflot; 18) Aerolíneas Argentinas; 19) Aeroméxico; 20) Air Berlin; 21) Air Europa; 22) Air France; 23) Alitalia; 24) Arkefly; 25) Aruba Airlines; 26) Austrian Airlines; 27) Avianca El Salvador; 28) Avianca Peru; 29) Avior Airlines; 30) Boliviana de Aviacion; 31) British Airways; 32) Canadian North; 33) Cayman Airways; 34) First Air; 35) Finnair; 36) GOL Airlines; 37) Iberia; 38) Insel Air; 39) Insel Air Aruba; 40) Interjet; 41) Jetairfly; 42) LAN Airlines; 43) LAN Argentina; 44) LAN Colombia; 45) LAN Ecuador; 46) LAN Perú; 47) Lufthansa; 48) Qatar Airways; 49) SBA Airlines; 50) Surinam Airways; 51) Swiss International Air Lines; 52) TAM Airlines; 53) TAP Portugal; 54) Thomas Cook Airlines; 55) Transaero Airlines; 56) Turkish Airlines; 57) Virgin Atlantic Airways; 58) XL Airways France.

Mexico City: [23]
1) Air Canada; 2) Air France; 3) Alaska Airlines; 4) American Airlines; 5) Avianca; 6) Avianca El Salvador; 7) Avianca Peru; 8) British Airways; 9) Copa Airlines; 10) Copa Airlines Colombia; 11) Cubana de Aviación; 12) Delta Air Lines; 13) Iberia; 14) JetBlue Airways; 15) KLM; 16) LAN; 17) LAN Peru; 18) Lufthansa; 19) Southwest Airlines; 20) TAM Airlines; 21) United Airlines; 22) U.S. Airways; 23) Spirit Airlines

Foreign Destinations:
Atlanta: [78]
1) Toronto; 2) Paris; 3) London; 4) Amsterdam; 5) Aruba; 6) Barbados; 7) Belize City; 8) Bermuda; 9) Bogotá; 10) Bonaire; 11) Brasilia; 12) Brussels; 13) Buenos Aires; 14) Cancún; 15) Caracas; 16) Cartagena; 17) Cozumel; 18) Dubai; 19) Düsseldorf; 20) Frankfurt; 21) Düsseldorf; 22) Grand Cayman; 23) Guadalajara; 24) Guatemala City; 25) Johannesburg; 26) Kingston; 27) Lagos; 28) Liberia (Costa Rica); 29) Lima; 30) Madrid; 31) Managua; 32) Medellín; 33) Medellín; 34) Mexico City; 35) Montego Bay; 36) Montreal; 37) Munich; 38) Nassau; 39) Panama City; 40) San Jose del Cabo; 41) Port–au-Prince; 42) Providenciales; 43) Puerto Vallarta; 44) Punta Cana; 45) Quito; 46) Rio de Janeiro; 47) Roatán; 48) Rome; 49) St. Lucia; 50) St. Maarten; 51) San Jose de Costa Rica; 52) San Pedro Sula; 53) San Salvador; 54) Santiago de Chile; 55) Santiago de los Caballeros; 56) Santo Domingo; 57) São Paulo; 58) Stuttgart; 59) Tegucigalpa; 60) Tokyo; 61) Antigua; 62) Barcelona; 63) Dublin; 64) Grenada; 65) Milan; 66) St. Kitts; 67) Vancouver; 68) Venice; 69) Zürich; 70) Havana; 71) Georgetown; 72) Leon; 73) Freeport; 74) Halifax; 75) Ottawa; 76) Seoul; 77) Doha; 78) Manchester (United Kingdom).

Miami: [121]
1) Moscow; 2) Cordoba; 3) Buenos Aires; 4) Cancun; 5) Mexico City; 6) Merida; 7) Monterrey; 8) Dusseldorf; 9) Toronto; 10) Montreal; 11) Madrid; 12) Paris; 13) Pointe-à-Pitre; 14) Port-au-Prince; 15) Rome; 16) Antigua; 17) Aruba; 18) Barbados; 19) Barcelona (Spain); 20) Barranquilla; 21) Belize City; 22) Belo Horizonte; 23) Bermuda; 24) Bogota; 25) Brasilia; 26) Cali; 27) Campinas; 28) Cap-Haitian; 29) Caracas; 30) Cozumel; 31) Curaçao; 32) Curitiba; 33) Fort-de-France; 34) Frankfurt; 35) Grand Cayman; 36) Grenada; 37) Guatemala City; 38) Guayaquil; 39) Kingston; 40) La Paz; 41) Liberia (Costa Rica); 42) Lima; 43) London; 44) Managua; 45) Manaus; 46) Maracaibo; 47) Medelin; 48) Milan; 49) Montego Bay; 50) Montevideo; 51) Panama City; 52) Porto Alegre; 53) Port of Spain; 54) Providenciales; 55) Puerto Plata; 56) Punta Cana; 57) Quito; 58) Recife; 59) Rio de Janeiro; 60) Roatan; 61) St. Kitts; 62) St. Lucia; 63) St. Maarten; 64) Salvador da Bahia; 65) San José (Costa Rica); 66) San Pedro Sula; 67) San Salvador; 68) Santa Cruz de la Sierra; 69) Santiago de Chile; 70) Santiago de los Caballeros; 71) Santo Domingo; 72) São Paulo; 73) Tegucigalpa; 74) Camagüey; 75) Havana; 76) Santa Clara (Cuba); 77) Santiago de Cuba; 78) Freeport; 79) Georgetown; 80) Nassau; 81) North Eleuthera; 82) San Salvador (Bahamas); 83) La Romana; 84) Cienfuegos; 85) Holguín; 86) Amsterdam; 87) Vienna; 88) Cartagena de Indias; 89) Barcelona (Venezuela); 90) Valencia (Venezuela); 91) Cochabamba; 92) Halifax; 93) Hamilton (Canada); 94) London (Canada); 95) Ottawa; 96) Quebec City; 97) Moncton; 98) Cayman Brac; 99) Helsinki; 100) Brussels; 101) Munich; 102) Doha; 103) Paramaribo; 104) Zürich; 105) Belém; 106) Fortaleza; 107) Lisbon; 108) Manchester (United Kingdom); 109) Istanbul; 110) Copenhagen; 111) Oslo; 112) Stockholm; 113) Marsh Harbour; 114) South Bimini; 115) Treasure Cay; 116) Governor's Harbour; 117) Aguadilla; 118) Armenia (Colombia); 119) Toluca; 120) Guadalajara; 121) Winnipeg.

Mexico City: [52]
1) Dallas/Fort Worth; 2) Houston; 3) Miami; 4) Chicago; 5) Fort Lauderdale; 6) Las Vegas; 7) Denver; 8) Los Angeles; 9) Oakland; 10) Orlando; 11) San Diego; 12) Phoenix; 13) Charlotte; 14) Washington, D.C.; 15) New York; 16) São Paulo; 17) San Antonio; 18) Orange County; 19) Frankfurt; 20) Munich; 21) Lima; 22) Santiago de Chile; 23) Amsterdam; 24) Bogotá; 25) Guatemala City; 26) Havana; 27) San José de Costa Rica; 28) Madrid; 29) Atlanta; 30) Detroit; 31) Salt Lake City; 32) Panama City; 33) London; 34) Lima; 35) San Salvador; 36) Paris; 37) Toronto; 38) Montreal; 39) Managua; 40) San Pedro Sula; 41) Fresno; 42) Vancouver; 43) Tokyo; 44) Shanghai; 45) San Francisco; 46) Sacramento; 47) Rio de Janeiro; 48) Quito; 49) Ontario (U.S.); 50) Caracas; 51) Buenos Aires; 52) Boston.

Resources:
Mexico City
1. Toluca International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. Querétaro International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3. Mexico City International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Miami
1. Fort Lauderdale
2. Miami International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3. Palm Beach International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Atlanta
1. Hartsfield

Additional
1. 12 months
Gotta give it to you...you are thorough.lol
 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Gotta give it to you...you are thorough.lol
Thanks.

I am very data obsessed. I go for precision every time.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The O & D figures for Atlanta are around 32-35%. Do the math.

What's really laughable is that the much larger and more prosperous Bay Area doesn't enjoy the nonstop destinations offered in the Caribbean, Central and South America that Atlanta takes for granted. Talk about pathetic.

Enjoy your United hub. Arguably the worst Airline of the surviving legacies, at constant war with its own employees. And it shows.
I used SFO as an example, but I can see your a bit rattled. I don't have to enjoy United because I have a choice of over 30 other carriers that offer better service than any U.S. Airline including your Delta.

I'd rather have nonstop flights to World cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Sydney and Hong Kong than some Caribbean Island resorts. We have nonstop flights to Hawaii. Do you?

Maybe I should be asking you why your city has no flights to Hong Kong, Beijing or Shanghai. All Alpha world cities which are more prominent on the world stage than some island resort or some borderline third world city in Central America.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 07:03 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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I used SFO as an example, but I can see your a bit rattled. I don't have to enjoy United because I have a choice of over 30 other carriers that offer better service than any U.S. Airline including your Delta.
Not rattled at all. I just feel compelled to confront rude, antagonistic posters with an obvious anti-Atlanta agenda. And I'm so sure you commute to the Pacific Rim regularly on your '30 other carriers.'

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I'd rather have nonstop flights to World cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Sydney and Hong Kong than some Caribbean Island resorts.
Since when are Buenos Aires, Santiago, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro not World cities? They are certainly not 'some Caribbean Island resorts.' Not one of them can be reached nonstop from the Bay Area. Why?

Quote:
We have nonstop flights to Hawaii. Do you?
Yes, we do.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 07:42 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Not rattled at all. I just feel compelled to confront rude, antagonistic posters with an obvious anti-Atlanta agenda. And I'm so sure you commute to the Pacific Rim regularly on your '30 other carriers.'



Since when are Buenos Aires, Santiago, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro not World cities? They are certainly not 'some Caribbean Island resorts.' Not one of them can be reached nonstop from the Bay Area. Why?



Yes, we do.
Are those SA cities to Atlanta on their own metal or is it Delta? I'm betting it's the latter because residents in those countries have little desire to travel to Atlana or you would see TAM or LAN flying to Atlanta. It's most cities in Deltas network that makes those flights to SA viable not Atlanta. Your city is a jumping off place because Delta forces their passengers through there. If Deltas hub was in Jacksonville, Fl you would see a similar international network.

We'll talk when your city reaches a dozen foreign flags in the next 10 years. Hopefully.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Are those SA cities to Atlanta on their own metal or is it Delta? I'm betting it's the latter because residents in those countries have little desire to travel to Atlana or you would see TAM or LAN flying to Atlanta. It's most cities in Deltas network that makes those flights to SA viable not Atlanta. Your city is a jumping off place because Delta forces their passengers through there. If Deltas hub was in Jacksonville, Fl you would see a similar international network.

We'll talk when your city reaches a dozen foreign flags in the next 10 years. Hopefully.
We will talk when your city can get its graduation rates up, poverty rate down and per capita income up..
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