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View Poll Results: What are Greater Indianapolis & Greater Columbus' ceilings in the Midwest over the course of the
They will surpass all places in the Midwest in population and economy except for Chicago, Detroit, and the Twin Cities 29 39.73%
They will settle somewhere in the mid-range and wont ever completely surpass Cleveland or Saint Louis 24 32.88%
They will stay where they are now as relative upstarts 11 15.07%
They will decline and lose ground in the future 4 5.48%
They will even surpass Chicago, Detroit, and the Twin Cities (CSAs) 1 1.37%
Other 4 5.48%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-14-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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Look at Omaha versus Grand Rapids! Lincoln too has a very high GDP per capita, so the Omaha metro wont lose the high GDP once they join.
Those are 2013 GDP numbers that don't reflect the metro reallgnment. Omaha would still have been considered the bigger metro.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:31 AM
 
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Those are 2013 GDP numbers that don't reflect the metro reallgnment. Omaha would still have been considered the bigger metro.
Ill check up on 2014s numbers. I know that cities like omaha, lincoln and des moines rank noticeably higher in gdp than they do in their population rankings.

Edit: The metropolitan areas in those reports are the updated metro areas.

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Old 05-17-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati(Silverton)
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UA United Nations (2014)
- Chicago, IL-IN-WI: 9,156,000
- Detroit, MI: 3,672,000
- Minneapolis-Saint Paul, MN-WI: 2,771,000
- Saint Louis, MO-IL: 2,186,000
- Cleveland, OH: 1,783,000
- Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN: 1,682,000
- Indianapolis, IN: 1,617,000
- Kansas City, MO-KS: 1,593,000
- Columbus, OH: 1,481,000
- Milwaukee, WI: 1,408,000
- Omaha, NE-IA: 772,000
- Grand Rapids, MI: 585,000
Cincinnati Dayton is already recognized internationally as a UA.

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Old 05-17-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Cincinnati Dayton is already recognized internationally as a UA.

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That's messed up, considering that most international cities that have the population of greater Cincy-Dayton have UA's that are 1/10 the size (land area) of Cincy-Dayton and have a much bigger imprint on the world, like Brussles or Vancouver. Population isn't everything, especially when it comes to American cities (and that goes for most American cities).
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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What are Greater Indianapolis & Greater Columbus' ceilings in the Midwestern United States?

So lets say a couple of decades, the 2010s, the 2020s, the 2030s, possibly beyond all the way to the 2050s. What would you say are the ceilings for these cities? They are two of the only seven boomtowns among major Midwestern metropolitan areas (the other five being Omaha, Madison, Minneapolis/Saint Paul, Grand Rapids, and Des Moines).

Do you think these two places have a legit chance of surpassing the likes of Kansas City, Cincinnati, Saint Louis, Cleveland and then take position right behind the Midwest's Big 3 (Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis/Saint Paul)?

Factors to consider: economic momentum, logistical future (how location will help), population growth, globalization, so on.

Here are two articles I read earlier this morning with some information about where these cities are headed;

Indianapolis: "The Crossroads of America:" How Indianapolis Has Benefited From Booming Latino Business Community : Business : Latin Post

Columbus: Logistics gaining steam in Columbus region | Columbus CEO

Overall national news: High Demand for Industrial Space at Nation

Share thoughts, concerns, ideas, rants, skepticism, whatever.

You can compare them by MSA or CSA, whatever.
Indianapolis already has a GDP higher than any of the cities in Ohio, it outpaced Cincinnati and Cleveland, and Columbus lags far behind Indy in GDP. At current trends Indianapolis will have a higher GDP than St. Louis by 2020.
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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The most striking bit of data up there is that MSP has a higher GDP than Detroit, even though Detroit has a much higher population.
Metro MSP has a higher GDP than Metro Detroit.

However, Detroit CSA still has a higher GDP than CSA Minneapolis, arguably the population of over 5.2 million in the CSA helps out Detroit a lot.
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Old 05-19-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Indianapolis already has a GDP higher than any of the cities in Ohio, it outpaced Cincinnati and Cleveland, and Columbus lags far behind Indy in GDP. At current trends Indianapolis will have a higher GDP than St. Louis by 2020.


GDP is the metric where Columbus and Indy differ some. The reason Indy has a higher gdp is being the only major city in the state. This gives it an advantage with GDP
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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GDP is the metric where Columbus and Indy differ some. The reason Indy has a higher gdp is being the only major city in the state. This gives it an advantage with GDP
Be that as it may Indianapolis is ahead of Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati metro, two of which are larger than Indy. Columbus lags behind both, put will likely soon pass Cleveland and Cincinnati.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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GDP is the metric where Columbus and Indy differ some. The reason Indy has a higher gdp is being the only major city in the state. This gives it an advantage with GDP
The state of Ohio also has nearly 5 million more people than Indiana. The metro population of both Cincinnati and Columbus is around 4.5 million. The combined metro population of Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus is over 8 million people which is nearly 4 times the metro population of Indy. Also The Region (Northwest Indiana) is the second largest urban center in the state and it part of the Chicago metro area. It also central time zone the same as Chicago. Indy is eastern time zone. Indy outperforms Columbus economically. It is just that simple.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Indianapolis already has a GDP higher than any of the cities in Ohio, it outpaced Cincinnati and Cleveland, and Columbus lags far behind Indy in GDP. At current trends Indianapolis will have a higher GDP than St. Louis by 2020.
St. Louis has faced massive population loss over the areas. These Midwestern metros are by no means booming, but Indy is probably faring better than most.
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