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Old 05-22-2015, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Indy doesn't have to compete with other cities outside of Indiana?
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And if proximity is such a factor Indy is fairly close to Louisville and Cincinnati, I guess that should be taking a toll on its yearly GDP.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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The claim was that it doesn't have in-state rivals.
Please explain how that impacts Indy's economic output relative to metro areas of equivalent size.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Earth
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And if proximity is such a factor Indy is fairly close to Louisville and Cincinnati, I guess that should be taking a toll on its yearly GDP.
Yeah, it's not like people or business travel between these cities.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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It doesn't have to. Nothing is stopping companies from outside of Indiana from moving to Indianapolis or any other part of the state. Indy's competition with other cities goes well beyond Indiana's borders. Don't think it doesn't. We have other companies and population relocating from out of state all the time. It's not like we are living in the former Soviet Union where you can not move about freely region to region with check points. The state to state borders are open and it's fair game for any city when it comes to drawing more business and population.
Indianapolis' (Marion County's) population growth for all this is pretty anemic- less than half that of Columbus, for example, despite incorporating an extra few hundred square miles. It seems that Indy's suburbs are the bigger draw, not the city/core county itself. It's unemployment rate is higher than several of the peers mentioned here as well.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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I don't know why number of counties matters? Population is more important as many of Indy's outlying metro counties are pretty rural. But since you asked, let's tally them up.

Indianapolis - 10 counties in metro area
Cincinnati - 16 counties in metro area
Columbus - 10 counties in metro area
Cleveland - 5 counties in metro area
Tampa - 7 counties in metro area
Kansas City - 15 counties in metro area

Was there a point you were trying to prove by number of counties in the metro area?
Because the more counties you add, even rural, boosts metro GDP. They're not all the same. Thought that would be obvious.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Please explain how that impacts Indy's economic output relative to metro areas of equivalent size.
I already did. Compare Ohio's multiple major cities to Indiana's one. State economic activity is much more concentrated in one place, where in other states it is not. Sure, Indianapolis could compete somewhat outside of the state for business relocation, but it's pretty obvious being the sole significant city in the state plays a role in Indy's GDP. To deny that is silly.
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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Indianapolis' (Marion County's) population growth for all this is pretty anemic- less than half that of Columbus, for example, despite incorporating an extra few hundred square miles. It seems that Indy's suburbs are the bigger draw, not the city/core county itself. It's unemployment rate is higher than several of the peers mentioned here as well.
It's unemployment rate is lower several of the peers mentioned here as well so what is your point?
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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I already did. Compare Ohio's multiple major cities to Indiana's one. State economic activity is much more concentrated in one place, where in other states it is not. Sure, Indianapolis could compete somewhat outside of the state for business relocation, but it's pretty obvious being the sole significant city in the state plays a role in Indy's GDP. To deny that is silly.
Does it really matter that Indianapolis is the economic engine of the state? It not as if it is underperforming. Ohio is the 7th most populated state and it has the 7th largest GSP (Gross State Product). Indiana is the 16th most populated state and it has the 16th largest GSP. Both GSP are on par with the population. Some states such as Tennessee, Arizona, Michigan, Washington, Colorado, Alabama for example punch below their numbers.
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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It's unemployment rate is lower several of the peers mentioned here as well so what is your point?
The point of the thread was to discuss what makes Indianapolis' GDP much higher than the others, implying that it had some special secret economic formula. My point all along has been that it's not all that much higher (nor is it growing as fast per GDP), and that its overall economics are decidedly mixed.
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Does it really matter that Indianapolis is the economic engine of the state? It not as if it is underperforming. Ohio is the 7th most populated state and it has the 7th largest GSP (Gross State Product). Indiana is the 16th most populated state and it has the 16th largest GSP. Both GSP are on par with the population. Some states such as Tennessee, Arizona, Michigan, Washington, Colorado, Alabama for example punch below their numbers.
It matters when the OP's question was what makes Indy's GDP higher than its peers.
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