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Old 05-26-2015, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Personally, I'd rather watch paint dry than 500 left turns, but that's just me. Some people like watching golf too. I don't understand it, but everyone has their thing.
Technically, there are 600 of them, but nice try at a dig.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Hit the nail right on the head. Indy is leaving Cincy and Cleveland behind in economic growth, and it hasn't been at the level of Columbus in many years. One of the main reasons separating Indy and Columbus is the sports presence in Indianapolis, Brickyard 400, Indy 500, Colts, Pacers, and a LOT of amateur and lower league sports, like AAA baseball, and two minor league hockey teams, and a minor league soccer team. Indy makes up for its lack of a major state university like University of Ohio.
University of Ohio? There is no such school.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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It's wrong.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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So there are what, maybe 30 square miles in Marion County that are not part of Indianapolis' city limits? It's still over 150 square miles larger than Columbus.

Columbus has closed the GDP gap the last few years. We'll see if that's a trend or a blip, but I'm sure you can guess what I think it is.

You know what I think of when I think of conventions? Old guys in Des Moines selling bathroom products. Something to hang your hat on, I guess.
No. Indy has had about a $14 billion lead on Columbus GDP for the past 6 years now, and since both cities are growing at relatively the same rate Columbus has NOT closed the gap.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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University of Ohio? There is no such school.
Oops, Ohio State University. State schools have such disingenuous names.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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No, but even Austin isn't growing like it once did. Huge population booms like that have expiration dates. And to be fair, I'm not saying that Indy's growth is bad, because it's not, especially for the Midwest, but for whatever reason, I don't think it's truly capitalizing on its strengths. Being a sports capital or whatever only gets you so far, and I think Indianapolis does a really bad job at fixing the livability stuff like crime, walkability, transit and infrastructure. Granted, Columbus does a crappy job on transit too, but it does a lot of the small stuff right, and I think that matters much more than being known for one thing.



Sure, but they're all relics of the past too, for the most part. Some can still be reasonably successful if they adapt or have large nearby populations that can support them... or if there's no strong competition, which is really what keeps Circle Center afloat.



No, its design and implementation makes it suburban.



You can fancy it up any way you want, but the lack of a surface parking lot does not make the actual design any less suburban. Nor do a few street-level restaurants, of which most suburban malls also have.



?? The other side of 70 from what?? It's IN Downtown. There is no highway between it and the rest of the neighborhood. It's directly across from the convention center and is just south of the Short North. It's all grouped together, making it a continuous urban area that Indy simply does not have.

The Wholesale District looks pretty much like any other nondescript downtown area, except with a mall.



I'm thinking you need to rethink what urban vibrancy means. A mall and some office buildings doesn't cut it, because WD looks like any part of a downtown in the Midwest. Columbus has areas that look just like that too. Luckily, that's not all it has.



I'm thinking you are perhaps not that aware of what's going on in Columbus, and perhaps I'm not that aware of what's going on in Indy... but come on. Indy is not some urban mecca. It's density can't even hold a candle to Columbus, let alone Milwaukee.
Neither city is blowing the other put of the water and each is trying to make up some of its short comings. Cbus is investingore in the core while Indy is investing more in its outer hoods where it can. Downtown Indy is still better while cbus immediate hoods still better. You tend to act hurt when someone doesn't proclaim cbus to be the ultimate everything. It's 3rd fiddle in its own state and with good reason, it lacks the bones of the other 2 and every metric you propose is based off of personal opinion of the individual so no right or wrong answer. GDP is a quantifiable metric. It is what it is but this convo has veered all the way left of that.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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University of Ohio? There is no such school.

Ohio University?
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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It's wrong.
Can you post the "correct" data then?
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Oops, Ohio State University. State schools have such disingenuous names.
You're still incorrect. It's THE Ohio State University! 😃
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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Ohio University?

There is that school, which is located in Athens.
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