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Old 05-19-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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So I notice the pattern of Italian Southerners concentrating in heavily Catholic areas like Baltimore and New Orleans.
There's a pattern of Italians concentrating in large port cities. Baltimore and New Orleans were the two largest cities in the South for most of the 19th and early 20th centuries.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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There's a pattern of Italians concentrating in large port cities. Baltimore and New Orleans were the two largest cities in the South for most of the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Was the Hampton Roads the same? I notice a few Italians there, too.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Was the Hampton Roads the same? I notice a few Italians there, too.
Not sure. Norfolk and Richmond had sizeable German and Irish populations. Not sure about Italian.

Tampa's Italian community was relatively large during the late 18th and early 19th centuries.

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The population of Ybor City diversified through the late 1880s and early 1890s as an influx of Italian immigrants began to arrive. Almost all of them were originally from the poverty-stricken Sicilian towns of Alessandria Della Rocca and Santo Stefano Quisquina, though many had first tried to find work in New Orleans, New York, or the sugar cane fields of the Kissimmee/St. Cloud area in central Florida before relocating to Tampa.
History of Ybor City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Wow...great statistics (I didn't have a chance to look through them all earlier). I made a comment earlier today that FL should have been excluded because I just assumed that FL cities (especially the Miami area) would blow away other southern cities in terms of Italian pop. I was wrong about that and some other assumptions. I knew that New Orleans historically had a large Italian population, but it looks like they still have a significant Italian pop. Again, thanks to everyone for providing the statistics.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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You don't hear similarities? I do. Not exactly the same, but apparently I'm not the only one who thinks of Jersey.

Yat dialect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I personally put it further South in Jersey simply because of the way they say their "o" sounds are not heard in the NYC metro from natives.
The White/Yat New Orleans accent sounds like an even blend of New York, Boston, and General Coastal Southern....Like taking a ten year old NYer and moving them to Savannah and at 20 they move to Boston until they're 35 or something.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I remember this movie from the early 90s called "Cop and a Half" with Burt Reynolds that was set in Tampa. Some kid witnesses a mob hit and Burt's job is basically taking on the Tampa mob.

Then there's the scene from Goodfellas where Henry and Jimmy travel to Tampa to collect a debt.

Tampa No Stranger To Intrigue Of Organized Crime | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Andy Pettitte grew up in Louisiana and has a slight southern drawl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpdR8YoR4_U
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Richmond, VA and Charleston, SC both have Italian festivals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2eTyEKUl4I
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Boston 23.4%
Hartford 20.1%
Philadelphia 16.3%
New York 16.2%
San Francisco 9.7%
Washington 8.0%
Chicago 7.2%
Detroit 7.2%
Miami 6.0%
Los Angeles 4.4%
Atlanta 2.6%
Dallas 2.3%
Houston 2.2%
That was CSA, not MSA

Italian Ancestry, CSA
New York: 3,246,878
Boston: 1,105,474
Chicago: 688,706
Philadelphia: 983,916
Los Angeles: 589,501
Washington: 483,667
San Francisco: 443,958
Miami: 357,488
Detroit: 308,661
Hartford: 244,641
Dallas: 157,447
Atlanta: 144,902
Houston: 141,108

Percent Italian ancestry
NYC - 14.1%
Boston - 14%
Philadelphia - 13.9%
Detroit - 5.8%
Washington - 5.4%
San Francisco - 5.4%
Chicago - 4.9%
Detroit - 4.8%
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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According to the most recent ACS data, these are the Top 10 metros for Italian ancestry reported.

New York - 2,632,782 (13.1%)
Philadelphia - 838,951 (13.9%)
Chicago - 665,874 (7.0%)
Boston - 654,948 (14.0%)
Los Angeles - 391,290 (3.0%)
Pittsburgh - 387,078 (16.4%)
Bay Area - 322,878 (5.0%)
Miami - 299,448 (5.1%)
Washington - 276,164 (4.6%)
Detroit - 268,684 (6.3%)
Tampa - 221,135 (7.7%)
Cleveland - 211,584 (10.2%)
Correction: I forgot to include Miami and Tampa.
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