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Old 05-18-2015, 10:27 PM
 
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New Subcounty Population and Housing Unit Estimates to be Embargoed

The Census is releasing sub-county estimates for 2014 at 12:01 AM EDT on May 21st. What do you think your city's estimate will be? I'll start with my cities.

Miami Beach. I think Miami Beach will pass both 92,000 and 12,000 ppl/square mile in the 2014 estimate.
Raleigh. I think Raleigh will land around 441,000 and pass 3000 ppl/square mile in the 2014 estimate.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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I'll play. The core cities of Minneapolis - St. Paul will be around 710,000 with Minneapolis being around 410,00 and St. Paul around 300,000.
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I'll play. The core cities of Minneapolis - St. Paul will be around 710,000 with Minneapolis being around 410,00 and St. Paul around 300,000.
I may as well toss in my guesses for the other core cities of the Research Triangle:
Durham: 251,000
Chapel Hill: 60,500
Cary: 157,000
Including Raleigh, I'm guessing about 909,500.
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Old 05-19-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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I may as well toss in my guesses for the other core cities of the Research Triangle:
Durham: 251,000
Chapel Hill: 60,500
Cary: 157,000
Including Raleigh, I'm guessing about 909,500.
Chapel Hill and Cary are core cities? I've always thought of them as being more suburban. I mean they don't function as Minneapolis and St. Paul do - two cities that literally border one another and pretty much function as a core city.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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Omaha 440,000
Lincoln 273,000
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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Grand Rapids up to 195k
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:33 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Chapel Hill and Cary are core cities? I've always thought of them as being more suburban. I mean they don't function as Minneapolis and St. Paul do - two cities that literally border one another and pretty much function as a core city.
Raleigh-Cary and Durham-Chapel Hill are the two MSA's that, when combined, make up the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill CSA which, BTW, was the name of the MSA before it was split it in two unequal pieces. The nature of the Triangle has always been about the three key universities, each within their respective named city. Since the split, Cary has been included as a core city with Raleigh in its MSA.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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Chapel Hill and Cary are core cities? I've always thought of them as being more suburban. I mean they don't function as Minneapolis and St. Paul do - two cities that literally border one another and pretty much function as a core city.
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Raleigh-Cary and Durham-Chapel Hill are the two MSA's that, when combined, make up the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill CSA which, BTW, was the name of the MSA before it was split it in two unequal pieces. The nature of the Triangle has always been about the three key universities, each within their respective named city. Since the split, Cary has been included as a core city with Raleigh in its MSA.
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While what @rnc is saying is technically true, the reality is that neither Chapel Hill nor Cary are the true core cities of theregion. It's extremely stupid that the Census split the Raleigh-Durham MSA, but in actuality it should be just that: the Raleigh-Durham MSA. Chapel Hill and Cary are suburbs in every realistic application of the word...

The "Triangle" is just the historical definition of the region when the cities were closer in breadth and size. East Central NC revolves around two cities, and their sphere of influence extends north to Roanoke Rapids/VA stateline, east to Rocky Mount/Greenville, south to Fayetteville, and west to Burlington. I'm not familiar with the nuances of MSP, but I would gather Durham is in the role of St.Paul, while Raleigh is in the role of Minneapolis. And while the two cities definitely feed off of and support each other, Raleigh is the premier city of the region...
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:58 PM
 
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Chapel Hill is not a suburb. I agree it isn't really a core city either. But a suburb it is definitely not.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:03 PM
 
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While what @rnc is saying is technically true, the reality is that neither Chapel Hill nor Cary are the true core cities of theregion. It's extremely stupid that the Census split the Raleigh-Durham MSA, but in actuality it should be just that: the Raleigh-Durham MSA. Chapel Hill and Cary are suburbs in every realistic application of the word...

The "Triangle" is just the historical definition of the region when the cities were closer in breadth and size. East Central NC revolves around two cities, and their sphere of influence extends north to Roanoke Rapids/VA stateline, east to Rocky Mount/Greenville, south to Fayetteville, and west to Burlington. I'm not familiar with the nuances of MSP, but I would gather Durham is in the role of St.Paul, while Raleigh is in the role of Minneapolis. And while the two cities definitely feed off of and support each other, Raleigh is the premier city of the region...
Cary is definitely a large suburb that has exploded in growth recently. I could never see Chapel Hill as anyone's suburb. It's a college town and definitely stands on it's own and has it's own culture. It may even be the best known of the core cities.
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