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Old 05-26-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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You mentioned Salvadorans, whom are Central Americans, so I assume you are talking about total Latin American populations total? The Caribbean population, yes, nearly even between Washington and Atlanta. Total Latin American population, Washington, D.C. is the larger of the two by a good amount.

Total Hispanic and/or Latin American Population (MSA):
1. Miami MSA: 2,419,441
2. Houston MSA: 2,228,634
3. Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 1,863,795
4. Washington D.C. MSA: 839,697
5. Atlanta MSA: 577,276

Yeah, no.

Houston is a city in Texas and when you take out the Mexican people, its Latin American population still tops 500,000. Bringing it back to total Latin American population that is a shade shy of 25% of its total Latin American population. It is almost the same size as Atlanta's entire Latin American population in general - again, without Mexican people.

- Houston MSA: 2,228,634 (Total Latin American Population)
- Houston MSA: 1,716,841 (Only the Mexican population)
- Houston MSA: 511,793 (Latin Americans not of Mexican background)
- Atlanta MSA: 577,276 (Total Latin American Population)

It is also similar with Dallas-Fort Worth, when you take out the Mexican people, the Metroplex still has about 320,000 people of other Latin American backgrounds which is for all intents and purposes closer to Atlanta's total Latin American population as a whole. That without the massive Mexican population in the Metroplex of 1.6 million, the Metroplex's other Latinos are also around the 20% range for total Latinos there. In addition to the Central American population actually being the fastest growers in both Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth, I would say you were entirely off the mark. For example, when you take away Mexican people in Atlanta MSA (336,013) then Atlanta's total Latin American population (577,276) craters substantially to just (240,000 people of Latin American descent who are not of Mexican background).

Here's the census data for the mot recent year available, you can check it if you want: http://www.city-data.com/forum/membe...population.bmp

By the way, 95% of Austin and San Antonio's Latin American population is Mexican? Yeah, no.

Obviously Miami's Latin American population is deeper and more pronounced than the rest but it was intelligent to take out Florida, Miami would've come out ahead with relative ease.
Wow, ok, bud.
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Old 05-26-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Well he is right though. Less than 80% of Houston is actually Mexican and it's decreasing as well because the Central American and South American Hispanic population is growing faster than the Mexican population. But like the Black Caribbeans, Puerto Ricans and Dominicans do not go west of the Mississippi that much so the population of those two groups in Texas does not surprise me.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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Here are the rankings for cities in the South (excluding the Florida metros) for metropolitan areas over 1,000,000.

Puerto Ricans:

Atlanta: 45,928
Dallas: 34,579
Houston: 28,641
Charlotte: 14,232
Raleigh: 11,020
Nashville: 6983
New Orleans: 5255
Memphis: 3096


Dominicans:

Atlanta: 13,717
Houston: 5409
Charlotte: 5,315
Raleigh: 3318
Dallas: 3054
New Orleans: 2800
Memphis: 584
Nashville: 521

*No ACS breakdown for Birmingham in Factfinder

In all of the above metropolitan areas, the largest Latino nationality is Mexican.


For comparison, here are the Florida cities:

Puerto Rican:

Orlando: 270,365 (This actually surprises me..but I'll admit I don't know much about Orlando)
Miami: 210,370
Tampa: 148,146
Jacksonville: 29,466

Dominican:

Miami: 97,291
Orlando: 38,233
Tampa: 18,035
Jacksonville: 3,405

For all of the above cities in Florida, Puerto Ricans are the largest Latino ethnicity...except for Miami where it is Cubans, obvs.
I get what your saying tho. And istates
the website.
American FactFinder - Results

However, i think percentages are better then raw numbers in regards to this.

10 major metros (0ver 500k) in the south outside florida, with highest percentages of:

Puerto Ricans
1. Hampton Roads VA metro - 1.8% (29,000)
2. Richmond VA metro - 1.1% (11,000)
3. Washington DC/N VA metro - 1.0% (56,000)
4. Atlanta GA metro - 1.0% (49,000)
5. Charlotte NC metro - 1.0% (20,000)
6. Baltimore MD metro - 0.9% (23,000)
7. San Antonio TX metro - 0.9% (23,000)
8. Raleigh NC metro - 0.9% (13,000)

By comparison, most metros in Florida and the northeast range from about 2-15% Puerto Rican, and most metro areas in the interior south and the rest of the US are usually less than 0.6% Puerto Rican. There are also high percentages of Puerto Ricans in Fayetteville NC, Columbus GA, Killeen TX metros because of high military prescnce , many Ricans are known to be in the military, which may also be the reason the Hampton Roads VA and San Antonio TX metro areas have really high percentages of Puerto Ricans.

And Houston and Dallas, tho not havin high percentages, these cities have large numbers of Puerto Ricans, with over 30k in the metro area, which is much higher then most other metro areas in the south (non-florida). Theres also growing numbers in the atlantic coast from Maryland to georgia



Dominicans
1. Washington DC / N VA metro - 0.3% (18,000)
2. Charlotte NC metro - 0.3% (5,000)
3. Raleigh NC metro - 0.3% (4,000)
4. Atlanta GA metro - 0.2% (13,000)
5. Hampton Roads VA - 0.2% (3,000)
6. Houston TX metro - 0.1 (5,000)
7. Baltimore MD metro - 0.1% (4,000)
Like Ricans, Dominicans are largely concentrated in the Northeast and florida, with growing numbers in the atlantic coast states


However, by overall percentage , outside florida, u are much more likely to find Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in the "atlantic South" states like Virginia, NC, and Georgia, and maryland/Delaware (tho not really considered Southern by 90% of america, but it is so by the census n government agencies), and even SC . Compared to states like Tenessee, MS, Alabama, louisiana, Ak, Oklahoma, and Kentucky, which are almost void of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, you'll be lucky if you'll find one. Tho Texas has a large number of PRs and DRs, it has lower percentages then southern states previously mentioned, because its a massive state , and there often heavily overshadowed by Mexicans

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Old 07-31-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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the whole area of Virginia, from the Hampton roads metropolitan area all the up to Richmond & the Tri-cities , has the highest concentration of Puerto Ricans percentage wise , in the South by far (outside Florida ofcoarse), and growing pretty fast, not as fast as florida or Pennsylvania, but still fast.

Notable mentions also go to the metro areas of Baltimore, Raleigh NC, Atlanta, DC, Charlotte, Houston, San Antonio, and maybe Dallas. Other then that there's few Puerto Ricans in the rest of the south n even fewer Dominicans.
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Old 07-31-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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the whole area of Virginia, from the Hampton roads metropolitan area all the up to Richmond & the Tri-cities , has the highest concentration of Puerto Ricans percentage wise , in the South by far (outside Florida ofcoarse), and growing pretty fast, not as fast as florida or Pennsylvania, but still fast.

Notable mentions also go to the metro areas of Baltimore, Raleigh NC, Atlanta, DC, Charlotte, Houston, San Antonio, and maybe Dallas. Other then that there's few Puerto Ricans in the rest of the south n even fewer Dominicans.
But if you go by percentages then smaller cities are going to be ranked higher due to a smaller overall population. The thread asks for southern cities with the LARGEST populations, not the largest percentage populations. A larger city like Atlanta or Houston is going to have a wider variety of international population.
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Old 07-31-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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Orlando is definitely a PR heavy city. As is Daytona, and the Tampa area. Relative to the size of S FL, and other Latino origins, South FL isn't all that Puerto Rican. South FL is only slightly more Puerto Rican than Jacksonville, at 3.5% and 2.3% respectively, whereas for Orlando it's 11.6% and for Tampa it's over 5%. Daytona has almost 30K Puerto Ricans and is only 500K in population (5-6% of the population there, too). Same with Lakeland.

It's widely known in Fl that Miami is Cuban/everyone else and Orlando is Puerto Rican, and there are relatively few Mexicans anywhere in the state.

Was curious if Jacksonville followed a more FL Hispanic path (high percentage, but few Mexicans) or a path more akin to the rest of the South (almost entirely Mexican, lower overall percentages).

Atlanta is the most Latino metro in the Southeast outside of FL with 11% metro population Hispanic (~550K Latinos). Of that, apparently 354K are Mexican (64% of the Latino population in Atl), another 44K that are Puerto Rican (#2 group), and apparently 38K who are Guatemalan (would fall under Central American bucket).

Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, and Greensboro-Winston Salem are all 10-11% Hispanic, also predominantly Mexican. New Orleans is 8.6% Hispanic. The rest of the South is very very low.

Of the FL cities, Miami-Dade County is 66% Hispanic (1.61 million Latinos)
Orlando metro is 25% Hispanic (543K Latinos)
Fort Lauderdale (Broward County) is 25% Hispanic (442K Latinos)
Palm Beach County is 19% Hispanic (253K Latinos)
Tampa metro is 16% Hispanic (456K Latinos)
Jacksonville metro is 7% Hispanic (~100K Latinos)

By # for Jacksonville's Latino population

31,167 Puerto Ricans (32% of overall Hispanic population, 2.3% of the metro)
21,517 Mexicans (22% of overall Hispanic population, 1.6% of metro)
14,439 South Americans...mostly Colombian (15% of overall Hispanic population, 1.1% of metro)
11,693 Cubans (12% of overall Hispanic population, 1% of metro)
9,271 Central Americans (9% of overall Hispanic population, 0.7% of metro)
6,299 "Other"...most Spaniard (6% of overall Hispanic population)
3,661 Dominicans (4% of overall Hispanic population)

So a breakdown more akin to FL rather than "southern", but a low percentage overall compared to neighbors, even a few southern metros.


Would be interesting to see Cubans, Colombians, Venezuelans, Argentineans, Chileans, and Brazilians (not Hispanic I know) as well by metro area.

VI. Appendix A | Pew Research Center

other source is ACS
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Old 07-31-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The whole purpose of this thread is puerto rican populations in the South OUTSIDE of Florida.
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Old 07-31-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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I was just surprised so many were quick to lump Jacksonville in with FL as opposed to the South. It appears to swing both ways to fit certain needs. Sometimes Jacksonville is a southern city. Sometimes it's a FL city. I wanted to see with regards to PR/Latino population whether or not Jacksonville was closer to FL or to the South. Still tough to call...low overall percentage like the South, but more of a FL Latino profile.
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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Killeen TX
I grew up here and it's accurate. In the 90s, I would bet that there were actually more Puerto Ricans than Mexicans. I think that has changed now. But I remember that most of my classmates who spoke any hint of Spanish were from Puerto Rico, not Mexico. The state of Texas never really had a large PR population though. I think it just passed 100k officially in the last census so that tells you how small it is. The Dominican population is even smaller. Outside of Mexico, Texas also gets lots from Central America like El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras (this one is growing fast there).
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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I was just surprised so many were quick to lump Jacksonville in with FL as opposed to the South. It appears to swing both ways to fit certain needs. Sometimes Jacksonville is a southern city. Sometimes it's a FL city. I wanted to see with regards to PR/Latino population whether or not Jacksonville was closer to FL or to the South. Still tough to call...low overall percentage like the South, but more of a FL Latino profile.
It's not really up for debate whether Jacksonville is part of FL - it is. Just because it isn't exactly like the other FL cities doesn't mean it isn't part of the state. All the cities in GA aren't alike either - Savannah couldn't be much different from Atlanta - but they are all still in the same state.

This FL debate is just getting ridiculous. Yes, South Florida is different from the rest of the South and even the rest of the state but so are other areas of the South...they are all still southern. And Jacksonville is still in FL.
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