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Old 05-22-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Atlanta is the biggest city in the Southeastern U.S. and it's CSA includes over 30 counties, not a fair comparison. If San Antonio included such an area it would encroach the Austin/San Marcos area.
No, that would be Miami. Its MSA and CSA are larger.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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They always redo the baseline in order to match the current geographic boundaries. Ive seen it several times.
Can you give me some more examples from this current data set? I haven't seen any like Omaha's and I am positive that they aren't the only ones to annex land in the last 4 years.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Atlanta is the biggest city in the Southeastern U.S. and it's CSA includes over 30 counties, not a fair comparison. If San Antonio included such an area it would encroach the Austin/San Marcos area.
That is a fair point....If you take a 60 mile radius population of Atlanta vs the same footprint around SA, Atlanta might only have twice the population. Still, my point is that city proper population is basically irrelevant because it does not really provide a true sense of how populate a human settlement area really is.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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San Antonio is fast approaching the 2.5 million mark, "dwarfs" is a bit of an exaggeration. Dekalb and Fulton Counties cover between 800-900 square miles and include the bulk of urban Atlanta, 1.7 million residents, the rest of the metro is not as urban, a whole lot of low density exburbs over a very large territory. San Antonio has 1.5 million people within less than 400 square miles, granted San Antonio doesn't have nowhere near as many exburbs like Atlanta, there isn't much outlying exburbs in the western and southern portions of metro S.A, the heavy population base is north and northwest of San Antonio and along the I-35 corridor towards Austin, one of the fastest growing regions in the country.
Well that's an interesting way to squint your eyes. Cobb, Gwinnett, and Fulton are hardly exurban and are very much a part of the core metro Atlanta conversation. With the city of Atlanta, Cobb, Gwinnett, Dekalb and Clayton counties combined we're talking at least 3 million people centered in and around the immediate 1000 square miles of Atlanta, and another 1.5 million in the remainder of the UA. To ignore them to make your point shows that you either being biased or don't know much about Atlanta.

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Comparing CSA's to MSA's are not fair comparisons. Atlanta metro is much bigger but it doesn't dwarf San Antonio's.
Lol, let's be real. Atlanta at all levels dwarfs SA. That's not a shocking or debatable thing to say.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Atlanta is the biggest city in the Southeastern U.S. and it's CSA includes over 30 counties, not a fair comparison. If San Antonio included such an area it would encroach the Austin/San Marcos area.
Do you understand how small and how many counties there are in Georgia. If you combined Atlanta's Fulton, Dekalb, Cobb, Gwinnett, and Clayton counties it would only slightly larger than Bexar county alone.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Do you understand how small and how many counties there are in Georgia. If you combined Atlanta's Fulton, Dekalb, Cobb, Gwinnett, and Clayton counties it would only slightly larger than Bexar county alone.



DeKalb and Fulton counties cover about 800 square miles and have 1.7 million people, Bexar county covers about 1,200 sq. miles and is fast approaching the 1.9 million mark. 1.5 million within 400 square miles of those 1,200 square miles.

I know Atlanta is in a different size class but it doesn't dwarf San Antonio at all! It is a much larger metro area, being twice the size by no means it dwarfs.

L.A., Mexico City, NYC metros dwarf! They are multiple times larger.

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Old 05-22-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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No, that would be Miami. Its MSA and CSA are larger.
True, but I think when people are saying "the South" they are talking the cultural region, not really South Florida. Miami (and really all of Florida from Orlando south) is kind of its own thing, and has more in common with New Jersey or Puerto Rico than Alabama.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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DeKalb and Fulton counties cover about 800 square miles and have 1.7 million people, Bexar county covers about 1,200 sq. miles and is fast approaching the 1.9 million mark. 1.5 million within 400 square miles of those 1,200 square miles.
Density has zero to do with the question. If that's how you're ranking cities, then you would apparently argue that London is much smaller than basically any small village in Spain or Italy, since London only achieves its huge population by covering a vast land area through fairly low density for Europe.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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The term"Dwarf" is a harsh word to use when comparing cities.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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The term"Dwarf" is a harsh word to use when comparing cities.
Yeah...but if you were half the height of Shaq......just sayin!
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