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Old 05-24-2015, 10:51 AM
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Philadelphia would probably give you that more different feel that you are looking for.
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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Move to Chicago. Philly is a downgrade from Chicago IMHO especially because you are a woman it will be intolerable for you

Philly is a nasty city IMO. The folks there smell, have yellow pit stains under their arm, the men grow ugly beards that have lays chips crumbs in it, everybody farts all the time, and folks look like they got off a shift in the ole factory IMO. No fashion sense IMO. The food sucks unless you like garlic bread or cream cheese, etc. No offense but Philly folks aint the best looking just like their city IMO
How ironic considering you're from San Francisco. Excuse me for the cliche but talk about throwing stones while living in a glass house.
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:21 PM
 
Location: The mountain of Airy
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Move to Chicago. Philly is a downgrade from Chicago IMHO especially because you are a woman it will be intolerable for you

Philly is a nasty city IMO. The folks there smell, have yellow pit stains under their arm, the men grow ugly beards that have lays chips crumbs in it, everybody farts all the time, and folks look like they got off a shift in the ole factory IMO. No fashion sense IMO. The food sucks unless you like garlic bread or cream cheese, etc. No offense but Philly folks aint the best looking just like their city IMO
So true. I live in Philly and can't stop farting in my yellow pit-stained factory t-shirt. Every six months, I save enough money to escape this hole to fly to San Fransisco where I wander downtown like a homeless person, urinating in the streets for the tourists.
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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Move to Chicago. Philly is a downgrade from Chicago IMHO especially because you are a woman it will be intolerable for you

Philly is a nasty city IMO. The folks there smell, have yellow pit stains under their arm, the men grow ugly beards that have lays chips crumbs in it, everybody farts all the time, and folks look like they got off a shift in the ole factory IMO. No fashion sense IMO. The food sucks unless you like garlic bread or cream cheese, etc. No offense but Philly folks aint the best looking just like their city IMO
Im glad you were smart enough to say IMO. Everything you said holds no weight whatsoever. Keep your a** in SF
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It might not be a matter of terribly different? But in HOUSING. Chicago and Philly are greatly different. Philly is the Row Home Capital of the nation. Philadelphia has more than 300,000 row homes in almost every possible shape and size, more than any other city in the United States. Home Page Many are on a Chicago alleyway size street. Walls of Row homes in every direction. Many having no green frontage to the sidewalk and street as EVERY Chicago neighborhood has, and Chicago has very Low % of Row homes. Some new townhouses around Downtown now. But I mean old stock varieties.

Philly surely has many Tree-lined streets. Especially more outlier parts of the city proper. Its Colonial high-end Areas are green. But vast areas of the city have lower amounts.

Chicago seems to have trees in every neighborhood. Many huge as a they can tower above all the houses. Of course I know YOU Know that. Just when I SAW.... NOT terribly different? For me... the housing varieties and styles really are, and street grid. Chicago also has a fully alleyway system and its Bungalow belt.

.......Chicago...... ....Philadelphia ......Chicago again..
I would say that there is a fairly large gradient between Philly neighborhoods in terms of this. South Philly (the part pictured) is extreme in its concrete jungle-ness. West Philly is leafier and generally feels like it has more breathing room, because the houses are set back/have porches and the streets adhere to grid less severely. Places like Germantown/Mt. Airy/East Oak Lane even morso but they are further from the core.

I can't really compare to Chicago, since i've only been to a small part of it, but Hyde Park did feel very leafy. From google maps it looks like the northside might be less so?
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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I would say that there is a fairly large gradient between Philly neighborhoods in terms of this. South Philly (the part pictured) is extreme in its concrete jungle-ness. West Philly is leafier and generally feels like it has more breathing room, because the houses are set back/have porches and the streets adhere to grid less severely. Places like Germantown/Mt. Airy/East Oak Lane even morso but they are further from the core.

I can't really compare to Chicago, since i've only been to a small part of it, but Hyde Park did feel very leafy. From google maps it looks like the northside might be less so?
I recently ran Google Street View through the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago, and the houses all had enough of a setback from the streets for large trees to grow. It seems like the north side of Chicago is more "shady" (in a pleasant way) than Philadelphia's vast swathes of rowhouse neighborhoods.

Of course, it helps that Chicago burned down in 1871 and was rebuilt in a way that reduced the risk of another inferno.
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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I can't really compare to Chicago, since i've only been to a small part of it, but Hyde Park did feel very leafy. From google maps it looks like the northside might be less so?
Nope, not true at all - Most of Chicago in reality is very leafy (at least when it's not winter and the trees are "dead"). Downtown area isn't the same, but as you get into areas like Gold Coast, you'll start finding a lot of trees again.

Random street view from various neighborhoods on the north side:

* Lincoln Park - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9269...sQ!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Roscoe Village - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9405...hg!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Lakeview - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9378...YA!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Uptown - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9716...tA!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Ravenswood/Lincoln Square - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9713...ZQ!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Andersonville - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9798...UA!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Albany Park - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9629...RQ!2e0!6m1!1e1

* Edgewater - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9854...KSrEdUnjHA!2e0


etc.

Chicago also has many courtyard apartment complexes which provide even more greenery, such as:
* http://wibiti.com/images/hpmain/653/297653.jpg
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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Philly is actually a little more dangerous. Although there is something to the name Chiraq (especially as it rhymes with Iraq), it was made popular in song. There's many, many safe areas of Chicago away from what you're given thru media.

Chicago has the 2nd largest downtown in the US after NYC and it's pretty dense and extremely walkable. I'd give this nod to Chicago if you were talking about downtowns. Philadelphia's downtown is not small at all, but it's not as big as Chicago's which is also pretty dense (for non-NYC US standards).
You do realize that there was a huge debate about whether Philly or Chicago had the 2nd largest downtown and Philly one. There are about 100 articles that say that Philly has the second largest downtown. Just thought that the OP shouldn't be misinformed by a biased Chicagoan (similar to MSNBC and politics ;p)
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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You do realize that there was a huge debate about whether Philly or Chicago had the 2nd largest downtown and Philly one. There are about 100 articles that say that Philly has the second largest downtown. Just thought that the OP shouldn't be misinformed by a biased Chicagoan (similar to MSNBC and politics ;p)
If you JUST count the Loop, then yes - Center City is larger than the Loop. However, nobody in their right mind today would just count the Loop as downtown and nothing else outside of it. Downtown Chicago is made up of the Loop, part of the South Loop, part of the West Loop, at least half of River North, Streeterville, and part of the Gold Coast. Together, these would more than double the size of Philadelphia Center City. Only old school people in Chicago who won't accept the fact that the city has massively changed in the last 20 years would only consider the Loop, and nowhere else, as downtown.

The downtown skyline extends as far south as Soldier Field and as far north as North Avenue. This is between 3.5 and 4 miles long for what most people actually consider downtown. In other words, it would be like going from the far south reaches of Center City to north of Temple University. Do you really think downtown Philadelphia is that large? Philadelphia has by no stretch of the imagination a small downtown, but compared to the actual downtown of Chicago, and not just the Loop, it is definitely smaller.

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Old 05-24-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nope, not true at all - Most of Chicago in reality is very leafy (at least when it's not winter and the trees are "dead"). Downtown area isn't the same, but as you get into areas like Gold Coast, you'll start finding a lot of trees again.


Chicago also has many courtyard apartment complexes which provide even more greenery, such as:
* http://wibiti.com/images/hpmain/653/297653.jpg
Looks like I was mistaken then. My impression was based on the top down satalite view, but on second look it looks like those were taken in the winter.

Incidently, I live in a courtyard building sort of similar to that.

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I recently ran Google Street View through the Lakeview neighborhood in Chicago, and the houses all had enough of a setback from the streets for large trees to grow. It seems like the north side of Chicago is more "shady" (in a pleasant way) than Philadelphia's vast swathes of rowhouse neighborhoods.
This is definitely true of many rowhouse neighborhoods, but there are also perfectly shady rowhouse blocks in the city, especially areas where they are further set back. It does seem like Chicago's core is leafier on the whole.

North Philly:
https://goo.gl/maps/iBvxG

West Philly:
https://goo.gl/maps/4xFRI

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