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Old 07-22-2018, 10:01 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Well Atlanta is EASILY explained because the city ITSELF is ABOUT 600k. Atlanta, like D.C. is a smallish core city with large suburbs.


Austin, big do you think it is? Its over 900K residents but unlike Atlanta or D.C. has small suburbs. Its still bigger than Charlotte, Raleigh, Memphis and Nashville. If anything, I/m/o, Austin plays bigger than 900K. No metro area in the nation has changed more in the last ten years. This Place Sure Has Changed: Which Cities Have Changed the Most? - MagnifyMoney


Austin has some nationally recognized events in SXSW, Austin City Limits Music Festival and the U.S. Formula One Grand Prix. In my opinion San Antonio is a city that at 1.4 million seems slower that its size would suggest.
A couple of things here. Atlanta proper is nowhere near 600K. It not even 500K yet. Its core city area is also not small & dense in the way that DC is. By municipal limits, it's more similar to the size and population of Raleigh. It's a tad bit smaller in physical size and a bit more populated than Raleigh proper, but it's not in the ballpark with DC. Nonetheless, like DC, its core municipality plays a minor role in the population of its metro.

Speaking of Raleigh, it's not even in the same ballpark in city land area as the group of cities it's grouped with here. Raleigh's land area is less than half the size of Charlotte's & Memphis', and a third the size of Nashville's. Despite perceptions (I'm presuming) otherwise, Raleigh's city proper is also the most densely populated among that group. What Raleigh currently lacks is a postcard skyline, but that will change in time. Baring another collapse in the global economy, the next ten years are shaping up to be huge for its downtown. Each subsequent year is seeing fundamental changes. This year through 2020 will see the most change to Raleigh in generations. Is it there yet? No. Will it be soon? Absolutely.
While Austin's growth has been undeniable, and its downtown has exploded, one can argue that Raleigh's ascendance up the municipal rankings has been every bit as dramatic. For comparison, Travis Co. TX grew ~192% since 1980 (419,573 > 1,226,698), and Wake Co. NC grew ~256% since 1980 (301,327 > 1,072,203).
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Old 07-23-2018, 05:08 AM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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For some reason I always feel these cities are bigger than what their population says.
1. San Francsico
2. Seattle
3. Boston
4. Washington DC
5. Atlanta
6. Miami
7. Minneapolis
8. New Orleans
9. Cleveland
10. Pittsburgh

I always thought these cities were smaller than what their population shows.
1. Phoenix
2. San Antonio
3. San Jose
4. Austin
5. Jacksonville
6. Columbus
7. El Paso
8. Oklahoma City
9. Indianapolis
10. Charlotte
San Fran and Boston both have a smallish feel, I'd say Boston a little more so, but both have an undeniable MAJOR city aura. So they are small for major cities, but they dont feel small, and they also dont feel larger than they actually are...

I'd argue its blatantly obvious that SF isnt the singular anchor of an 8.5-million person region. That would put it in Chicago territory; it's clear you are in the most important city but not one that could support a metro population that large by itself...

DC feels larger than I think one would initially think. I think people are influenced by its lack of skyline and municipal population figures...

Atlanta doesn't feel larger or smaller, it just is...

Cleveland is way overblown as a large city and it definitely feels smaller than its reputation. Conversely, Pittsburgh has a "major city" quality to it that other cities its size (like Cleveland) really dont have. I was very surprised...
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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What Raleigh currently lacks is a postcard skyline, but that will change in time. Baring another collapse in the global economy, the next ten years are shaping up to be huge for its downtown.
Raleigh's downtown is adding more in the way of density with lots of midrises instead of height with a ton of highrises, which, in some ways, is more preferable. I'm sure more highrises will be added over time but in light of the similar population growth figures you posted, it's interesting to see how Austin's skyline has changed so dramatically over the years compared to Raleigh's--and mostly due to the rapid addition of residential highrises at that which is giving it more of a Miami/Vancouver-type look over time.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Atlanta feels bigger than its population to me.
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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San Francisco, Honolulu, Seattle, Boston, and D.C. all feel bigger to me than their population. Iím sure a lot has to do with density, and surrounding areas being mistaken as the city proper.

Despite its growth since my childhood, my hometown of San Diego stills feels smaller than its population. It doesnít feel like the 8th largerst city in this country.

I will say when you look at the metro population for all the cities listed above they all seem about right for size and feel of their population.
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Old 07-23-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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Houston feels really massive. I’m not sure if it feels more than 7 million or right where it’s supposed to be.

Someone told me that Houston feels larger than LA. I had to raise my eyebrow on that one. Lol.

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